Can someone check my explanation of sequences and series?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of sequences and series in mathematics, focusing on definitions, general term expressions, and the nature of arithmetic and geometric sequences. Participants are examining the correctness of an initial explanation and providing clarifications and corrections related to these mathematical concepts.

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  • One participant defines a sequence as a list of numbers and distinguishes between finite and infinite sequences, providing examples.
  • Another participant points out a minor typo in the explanation and confirms that the overall explanation is fine.
  • Several participants discuss the correct general term expressions for arithmetic and geometric sequences, suggesting that the initial expressions provided by the first participant generate the (n + 1)th term instead of the nth term.
  • One participant introduces a more formal definition of a series as the sum of terms and notes that not all infinite sequences sum to infinity, providing an example of a converging geometric series.
  • There are conflicting views on the notation used for the general term expressions, with some participants suggesting corrections while others defend the original explanation.

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Participants generally agree on the definitions of sequences and series but disagree on the specific expressions for the general terms of arithmetic and geometric sequences. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct notation and implications of the expressions presented.

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It's been a while since I've dealt with sequences and series. Here is my explanation of sequences and series and let me know if I am right or wrong.

A sequence is just a list of numbers. By convention, we use the letter ##a## for sequences and they are written in a form like so: ##a_1,a_2,a_3,a_4,...##

A sequence can be finite or infinite.

1,2,3,4 is a finite sequence. 1,2,3,4,... is an infinite sequence.

An arithmetic sequence, for some constant d: ##a_n=a_0+dn##
A geometric sequence, for some constant r: ##a_{ n }=a_{ 0 }r^{ n }##

A series is the sum of the terms of a sequence. By convention, is there a letter for series? I can't remember. Let us use the letter S in the meantime. Series are written like so: ##S_1,S_2,S_3,S_4,...##

Let Sn be the series of the finite sequence mentioned earlier. S1=1. S2=3. S3=6. S4=10.

Let Sn be the series of the infinite sequence mentioned earlier. S=∞

I feel like I'm doing something wrong. Can anyone briefly mention which parts are wrong?
 
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Except for minor typo (you have Sn when you meant S in last line), looks fine.
 
When you explain arithmetic and geometric sequences, the general term expression(s) are given by:
a_n = a_0 + d(n-1)
g_n = g_0 \cdot r^{n-1}
The n-1 is necessary to generate the term; for example, the sequence
1, 2, 3, 4, 5,...
is arithmetic, and if I wanted to generate the 6th term of the sequence, I would use:
a_6 = 1 + 1(6-1) = 6
Had I used your expression, a_n = a_0 + dn, then the term would be:
a_6 = 1 + 1(6) = 7, which is obviously not the 6th term of the sequence.
The same goes for geometric sequences. Consider
2, 4, 8, 16, 32,...
If I wanted to generate the 6th term of this sequence, I would use:
g_6 = 2 \cdot (2)^{6-1} = 2 \cdot 32 = 64
Again, if I used your expression:
g_6 = 2 \cdot (2)^{6} = 2 \cdot 64 = 128
So really what your expressions do is generate the n + 1 ^{th} term of the sequence, rather than the n^{th}
Your explanations of series are also fine, but I might add the more formal definition of a series:
S_n = \sum_{i=0}^{n} t_i which is really just the sum of some number of terms.Furthermore, an infinite sequence does not always add to infinity, as a geometric sequence with a ratio r such that -1 < r < 1 converges as n \rightarrow \infty. The example that you gave, though, will diverge to \infty.
 
AMenendez said:
When you explain arithmetic and geometric sequences, the general term expression(s) are given by:
a_n = a_0 + d(n-1)
g_n = g_0 \cdot r^{n-1}

Well, this would imply that a_0 = a_0 -d, which is not quite right. You probably mean a_{n-1}, but there's nothing wrong with Visheras explanation.
 
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disregardthat said:
Well, this would imply that a_0 = a_0 -d, which is not quite right. You probably mean a_{n+1}, but there's nothing wrong with Visheras explanation.
I'm not sure what you're arguing, as a_{n+1} implies a recursion, in which case (for an arithmetic progression) a_{n+1} = a_n + d
Consider:
a_0 = a_0<br /> \\<br /> a_1 = a_0 + d<br /> \\<br /> a_2 = a_1 + d = (a_0 + d) + d = a_0 + 2d<br /> \\<br /> a_3 = a_2 + d = (a_0 + 2d) + d = a_0 + 3d<br /> \\<br /> a_4 = a_3 + d = (a_0 + 3d) + d = a_0 + 4d<br /> \\<br /> \vdots<br /> \\<br /> a_n = a_{n-1} + d = (a_0 + (n-1)d) \rightarrow a_n = a_0 + d(n-1)<br />
Furthermore, for a geometric sequence:
g_0 = g_0<br /> \\<br /> g_1 = g_0 \cdot r<br /> \\<br /> g_2 = g_1 \cdot r = (g_0 \cdot r) \cdot r = g_0 \cdot r^2<br /> \\<br /> g_3 = g_2 \cdot r = (g_0 \cdot r^2) \cdot r = g_0 \cdot r^3<br /> \\<br /> \vdots<br /> \\<br /> g_n = g_0 \cdot r^{n-1}<br />
QED
Keep in mind that a_n or g_n is the n + 1^{th} term.
 
If you look at the sentence I quoted you will see what I mean.
 
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