Can someone explain the confusion with these basic motion equations?

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The discussion revolves around basic two-dimensional motion equations, specifically focusing on the compatibility of given values with the kinematic formulas. Participants are exploring the implications of the initial velocity, acceleration, and displacement in the context of these equations.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the kinematic equations to specific values but encounters a non-real answer, prompting questions about the compatibility of the values with the formulas. Other participants suggest that the values may be physically impossible and discuss the implications of rounding in the context of displacement.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance regarding the physical feasibility of the values and the nature of the equations involved. There is recognition of the need to reassess the values used in the calculations, particularly concerning significant figures.

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Participants are addressing the potential limitations of the kinematic equations based on the values provided, including the implications of rounding and the physical constraints of motion. The discussion highlights the need for careful consideration of the initial conditions and parameters in the equations.

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I have been reviewing the basic two-dimensional motion equations and I've discovered a conundrum that is causing me much confusion. For example, here is a basic formula with variables:

[itex]v^2 = vi^2 + 2ax[/itex]

[itex]v = ?[/itex]

[itex]vi = 27[/itex]

[itex]a = -7.5[/itex]

[itex]x = 49[/itex]

Therefore:

[itex]v^2 = 27^2 + 2(-7.5)(49)[/itex]

[itex]v^2 = 729 + -735[/itex]

[itex]v = √(-6)[/itex]

When I input the square root of (-6) into my calculator (a TI-83+), I receive a ERR:NONREAL ANS message. Are these values not compatible with this formula?

Here's another similar example, this time with the formula:

[itex]ΔX = vi*t + (1/2)at^2[/itex]

[itex]ΔX = 49[/itex]

[itex]vi = 27[/itex]

[itex]a = -7.5[/itex]

[itex]t = ?[/itex]

I have no idea how to even arrange the equation in terms of [itex]t[/itex]. Is this formula limited to solving displacement?

Thank you for your help and guidance.
 
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FlamingAero said:
Are these values not compatible with this formula?
Your values are just physically impossible. Given that initial velocity and acceleration, you'll never achieve x = 49. (Figure out the maximum value of x.)

Similar issue with the other formula for time. (In general, you can surely solve for the time. You'll get a quadratic equation.)
 
Doc Al said:
Your values are just physically impossible.

I now see my error. The value [itex]ΔX = 49[/itex] was rounded for significant figures, and should have instead been [itex]ΔX = 48.6[/itex]

Thank you for your help.
 
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Yeah the second one is a quadratic so you can either set it to 0 and factorise to get your two answers or use the quadratic formula below

[tex] <br /> \frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/tex]
 

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