Can someone explain the Earth's magnetic field to me?

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The discussion revolves around understanding the Earth's magnetic field, including its direction, the application of the right-hand rule, and the behavior of charged particles in the magnetic field. Participants explore theoretical concepts and practical applications related to electromagnetism, particularly in the context of a test preparation scenario.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the direction of the Earth's magnetic field, questioning why it is described as going from south to north instead of north to south.
  • Another participant suggests visualizing the Earth as a bundle of charge and describes the Earth's rotation as affecting the magnetic field direction, referencing Fleming's right-hand grip rule.
  • Several participants discuss the application of the right-hand rule to determine the direction of magnetic forces acting on electrons, with mixed results in their understanding.
  • There is a specific inquiry about the deflection of an electron moving horizontally at the equator and how to apply the right-hand rule correctly in this context.
  • One participant mentions that using the left hand yields a different result than expected, while others emphasize the necessity of using the right hand for the rule to work properly.
  • Another participant presents a mathematical expression involving the magnetic force on a negatively charged particle, indicating a downward force towards the Earth's surface, which contrasts with earlier claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the application of the right-hand rule and the resulting direction of forces on charged particles. There is no consensus on the correct interpretation of the magnetic field direction or the outcomes of applying the right-hand rule.

Contextual Notes

Participants' understanding of the right-hand rule and its application appears to be inconsistent, with some relying on different interpretations that lead to conflicting conclusions about the direction of forces and fields.

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I don't really understand how the Earth's Magnet work. For example, when the question say the electron is moving horizontally to the east. And then i asked someone, they said the horizontal actually is the vertical. And why does the magnetic field go from south to north, isn't north to south? is the Earth magnetic field line straight?
How would you compare if the lightning strike a beam of electron at the equator or at the pole??
How would you apply the hand rule to determine the direction of electron traveling horizontally?
If someone could explain the concept to me. Btw, i have a test tomorrow, if anyone can explain this to me today.
thank you very much.
 
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think of the Earth as a bundle of charge. because the Earth spins from west to east, if you were to look at the Earth from top at the north pole, the Earth's rotation, and thus the charges the Earth is made up of, would be anti clockwise. flemming's right hand grip rule does the rest.
 
Can you explain it a little more? And answer some of my question.
actually, the main thing is that i don't know how to use the hand rule to apply on a circular magnetic field...
ty!
 
think of just the equator, think of the circle it describes as being a circuit loop. current is flowing around the loop anticlockwise, so by Flemming's RHGR, the net magnetic field is always pointing up towards the north pole inside the loop.

just remember for the circular loop, you apply the grip rule at the tangent at that point, i think that's what you were asking
 
Yes, that's make sense to me now. So the direction of magnetic field is downward.
But how do you use hand rule to determine to deflected direction?
Like ,if the electron is traveling horizontally from west to east at the equator, what is the direction of deflected force?
I used the left hand for electron, the thumb point east , the finger point downward, the palm is pointing out of the page(pointing toward me).
but the answer in my textbook is downward toward Earth's surface. I don't know why..
 
Please anyone??
 
You have to use your right hand or the Right Hand Rule won't work...
 
ok, but even i used the right hand rule, i still got the same result...
 
Suy said:
ok, but even i used the right hand rule, i still got the same result...

The direction of the field is north. The direction of the particle (negatively charged) is east.

[tex]\vec{v}\times\vec{B}[/tex] is downward.

The magnetic force on the particl is [tex]q\vec{v}\times\vec{B}[/tex]. [tex]q[/tex] is negative, so the force points up, away from the earth.
 

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