Can someone identify these phenomena?

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The discussion revolves around identifying specific atmospheric phenomena captured in videos recorded in Angicos, Brazil. Participants explore whether the phenomena are tornadoes, gustnadoes, or dust devils, examining their characteristics and relationships to storm activity.

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  • One participant suggests the phenomena resemble a tornado.
  • Another participant argues that the phenomena are not centripetal vortices and proposes they are dust devils.
  • A different participant identifies the first video as a gustnado, noting its position relative to the storm cell, and expresses uncertainty about the classification of the second and third videos due to lack of information on the cloud base.
  • The same participant mentions their experience with storm chasing and describes the phenomena as typical vortices related to storm activity.
  • A later reply acknowledges the gustnado classification and expresses surprise at the mix between a tornado and a dust devil, indicating a lack of prior knowledge about gustnadoes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of the phenomena, with some proposing gustnadoes and others suggesting dust devils or tornadoes. No consensus is reached regarding the exact identification of each phenomenon.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of the cloud base information for accurate classification, highlighting the limitations in determining the nature of the phenomena based on the videos alone.

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These videos were recorded at Angicos, a small town of Brazil. They are records of the same phenomenon. Can someone identify it? A tornado? A gustnado? A dust evil?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwmngFGhGqQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_LQ0aevpZk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzLr4TCAL18​
 
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Looks like a tornado to me.
 
ENQUISITIVE said:
these are not cetripetal vortexs.
I only glanced at the first one.

Dust devils then.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoBhgKXIGXI
 
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The first one is a gustnado often seen along the gust front of an approaching storm
its not in the right place in the stormcell for it to be a tornado.

The second one is very indistinct... I will go with gustnado for similar reasons to the first videoclip.

the third one hmmmmm... unfortunately the cloudbase directly above the rotation was never shown and without that info I cannot tell you if its a gustnado or a tornado

That one really got its act together after coming off the water, didnt it ! cool

I get to see all sorts of wonderful things like that during my stormchasing trips around the USA and Australia

All 3 are clearly related to the storm activity which makes them gustnadoes / tornadoes
its their positional relationship to the stormcell which determines which of those 2 they are.
They are all typical vortex's ... there is no question of that! :)

Evo's video clearly shows a very nice dust devil ( willi willi in Australia, Aboriginal name for them) Often seen on sunny summer days when heat rising from the hot dry ground can start rotating. Travelling through the outback of Australia, my wife and I have seen many dust devils, sometimes 2 - 3 visible at the same time spread across the landscape

cheers
Dave
 
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davenn said:
The first one is a gustnado often seen along the gust front of an approaching storm
its not in the right place in the stormcell for it to be a tornado.

The second one is very indistinct... I will go with gustnado for similar reasons to the first videoclip.

the third one hmmmmm... unfortunately the cloudbase directly above the rotation was never shown and without that info I cannot tell you if its a gustnado or a tornado

That one really got its act together after coming off the water, didnt it ! cool

I get to see all sorts of wonderful things like that during my stormchasing trips around the USA and Australia

All 3 are clearly related to the storm activity which makes them gustnadoes / tornadoes
its their positional relationship to the stormcell which determines which of those 2 they are.
They are all typical vortex's ... there is no question of that! :)
Ooh, thanks Dave, that's why I couldn't tell why it looked like a mix between a tornado and a dust devil, it's a gustnado. Never heard of it, and I live in the midwest.

http://tamunews.tamu.edu/2011/06/15/gustnadoes/
 
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