Can Static energy generate magnetic field?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between static energy and magnetic fields, specifically whether static charges can generate magnetic fields and how to measure static energy. Participants explore concepts from classical electromagnetism and inquire about devices for measuring static charge.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether static energy can generate a magnetic field, particularly when charges are stable and stationary.
  • Another participant explains that, according to classical electromagnetism, magnetic fields arise from moving charges or time-varying electric fields, suggesting that stationary charges produce only an electric field.
  • A participant proposes using a charged ball on a string to measure the electric field and mentions the use of a Hall probe for measuring magnetic fields.
  • There is a discussion about the conditions under which magnetic fields can be detected, noting that a stationary observer would not detect a magnetic field from stationary charges, while a moving observer might.
  • One participant expresses interest in the types of charges (positive or negative) that can be generated on the surface of a charged ball and seeks advice on purchasing such a device.
  • Another participant mentions that generators can create either positive or negative charges, suggesting that potential buyers should inquire with sellers about the specific type of charge produced.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that stationary charges do not produce magnetic fields, but there is a lack of consensus on the implications of relative motion and the specifics of charge generation on surfaces.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of electric and magnetic fields in different reference frames, as well as the need for clarification on the types of charges generated by specific devices.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electromagnetism, static electricity, and the practical measurement of electric and magnetic fields.

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Referring to following image, static energy is generated, do we detect any magnetic field around this area? If we only get pure positive or negative charge on stable object, will it generate any magnetic field?
On the other hands, is there any digital device to measure the strength of static energy?
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions

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In classical E&M magnetic fields are created by moving charges or time varying E fields, so if your source charges are stationary there should just be an E field.
you could use a charged ball on a string like a pendulum to measure the E field.
Or if you want to measure B fields you would use a hall probe.
Here they calculate the charge on a ball in an E field.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=176363
 
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Do you know what kind of charges on the surface of the ball? Positive or Negative charges?
Thanks you very much for any suggestions
 
If there is no moving charge or changing field there is not likely to be detected by a stationery object like a compass. But it seems that electric and magnetism can easily transform from one to another in different reference frames.
 
Referring to following image, static energy is generated, do we detect any magnetic field around this area?

no, if the observer is stationary with respect to the apparatus,

yes, if the obserber is in relative motion with respect to the apparatus.
 
Naty1 said:
no, if the observer is stationary with respect to the apparatus,

yes, if the obserber is in relative motion with respect to the apparatus.

I see, no movement, no magnetic field,
Does anyone know about this device on what kind of charges generate on the surface of the ball? Positive or Negative charges? I would like to purchase one, where can I purchase a small one?
Thanks you very much for any suggestions
 
You can have generators which create negative charges on the surface and others which will create positive charges, you'd have to check with whoever you're buying it from :)
 

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