Chemistry Can the amount of moles in a mixture be determined using mass and molar mass?

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Determining the amount of moles in a mixture of NaCl and C12H22O11 using only the total mass is not valid without knowing the proportions of each component. The fraction of each solid in the mixture is crucial for accurate mole calculations. Even when considering the total moles of a solution, the specific ratios of the components affect the outcome. For example, varying the percentages of two substances with different molar masses yields different total mole counts. Thus, without knowing the composition of the mixture, it is impossible to accurately calculate the total moles present.
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If given the mass (15.0 g) of a mixture of two solids (NaCl + C12H22O11), can I find the amount of moles in the mixture by multiplying (15.0 g)*(mol / mass NaCl + mass C12H22O11)? I don't think this is valid, but I don't know why not...
 
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i don't think you can really do that... mainly because you don't know what fraction of the mixture is NaCl or C12H22O11.
 
Well what if you're just trying to find the moles of solution present? Then would it matter the fraction of each?
 
well.. that is sort of impossible to say the total moles of "solution present". for example, try making up your own values for a solution... like 20% A (molar mass 20) and 80% B (molar mass 5). you could then find find moles A and moles B and add them up together to find total moles.
now try doing it again except with like 50% A and 50% B. You should get a different number of moles.. at least i hope so lol
 
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