Can the Average Velocity Equation be Simplified Further?

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of the average velocity equation derived from a quadratic function of time, specifically d = Et² + Ft + G, over a specified interval [t1; t2]. Participants are exploring whether the expression for average velocity can be further simplified after initial calculations.

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  • Participants are attempting to simplify the average velocity expression and are questioning the correctness of their algebraic manipulations. There is discussion about the proper handling of terms and the distribution of negative signs.

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The conversation includes various attempts to simplify the average velocity equation, with some participants providing corrections and suggestions for factoring. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the algebraic steps involved, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the final form of the equation.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the extent to which they can receive direct solutions. There is also a focus on maintaining consistency with variable notation from the original problem.

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I need to calculate the average velocity of

d= Et²+Ft+G over the interval [t1;t2]

I after resolving i get to this function

avg v = (E(t2)² + Ft2 - E(t1)² + Ft1) / (t2-t1)


my question is it possible to go any further than this?
 
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Your average velocity has an error. The Ft1 term in the numerator should be -Ft1. After you fix that, you can simplify your expression.

avg v = (E(t2)² + Ft2 - E(t1)² - Ft1) / (t2-t1)
= [E(t22 - t12) +F(t2 - t1)]/(t2 - t1)

Now factor (t2 - t1) out of each term in the numerator, and you can cancel with the same factor in the denominator.
 
yea i for got to distribute the - sign

would this be it?

[t2 - t1 (E(t2-t1) + F)]/ t2 - t1 and than the solution would be

(E(t2-t1) + F)

correct?
 
No. a2 - b2 = (a - b)(a + b).
 
than like this

[E (t2-t1)(t2+t1) + F (t2-t1)] / t2-t1 =

than i can cancel the top (t2-t1) with the bottom giving

E (t2-t1) + F
 
No again.

Also, you should write your expression this way: [E (t2-t1)(t2+t1) + F (t2-t1)] / (t2-t1)
 
crossed out the wrong one, i meant

[E (t2+t1) + F] correct?
 
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and than for instantaneous i would take the derivative which is

2et² + f correct?
 
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Yes, but I would use the same letters as in the original problem.
v = 2Et2 + F
 
  • #11
thanks for your help, now just have to figure out my other thread
 

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