Can the group velocity be understood intuitively using the dispersion relation?

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The discussion focuses on the intuitive understanding of group velocity in relation to the dispersion relation. The group velocity, defined as v = dω/dκ, represents the propagation speed of the envelope function of a wave packet. Participants express confusion over the interpretation of group velocity as the rate of change of frequency with respect to the wave vector, despite clarity on phase velocity. A mathematical proof that avoids the concept of beats is requested to enhance understanding.

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While studying the brillouin zone I came across the dispersion relation and the group velocity. The group velocity is given by v=dω/dκ, I understand this in the sense of beats where it is Δω/Δκ and I understand that the group velocity is the propagation speed of the envelope function.
However I don't understand why it can be said to be the rate of change of frequency as a function of a change in the wave vector (using the dispersion relation). The units work out but I just can't seem to picture it. However the phase velocity makes perfect sense to me. Any way to intuitively understand this would be appreciated. Maybe some kind of mathematical proof without referring to beats would help.
Thanks a lot!
 
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Consider the motion of the maximum of a (very broad) wavepacket constructed from crystal momentum eigenstates k centered around k_0 with mean Delta k in the limit Delta k to 0.
 

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