Can the normal force between a blocks accelerating together be zero?

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The problem involves three rectangular blocks of equal mass sliding on a frictionless surface, accelerated by a force applied to the first block. Participants are tasked with analyzing the forces acting on each block and determining the conditions under which the normal force between the blocks may be zero.

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  • Participants discuss the vertical and horizontal forces acting on the blocks, with one participant questioning the possibility of a normal force being zero between two blocks. Others suggest starting with the overall acceleration of the blocks and calculating forces accordingly.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering hints and alternative perspectives on the force interactions. There is no explicit consensus, as differing interpretations of the forces involved are being explored.

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Homework Statement


Three rectangular blocks of equal mass m slide to the right along a frictionless horizontal surface accelerated by a force F applied to the left side of the left-most block. (a) Draw a free-body diagram for each block. (b) Determine the magnitudes and directions of all of the forces on each block in terms of m, F and/or g.


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As for vertical forces, each block has the force of gravity downwards and the normal force from the surface pointing upwards, which sum to 0. That part is fine.

As for the horizontal forces, on block 1 I have the applied force to the left, and the normal for from block 2 to the right. For block 2 I have the normal force from block 1 to the right and the normal force from block 3 to the left. And then for block 3 there I have the normal force from block 2 to the right. Using Newton's Law of equal and opp. pairs, I know that the normal force of 2 on 1=-(force on 1 on 2) and normal forces of 2 on 3=-(force 3 on 2).

By equating these forces and using Newton's Law, I get that the force of 2 on 3 is just F (applied force) and 3 on 2 is -F. And 2 on 1/1 on 2 is zero. Is that possible? Am i missing something?
 
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mistymoon_38 said:
By equating these forces and using Newton's Law, I get that the force of 2 on 3 is just F (applied force) and 3 on 2 is -F. And 2 on 1/1 on 2 is zero. Is that possible? Am i missing something?

you made a mistake somewhere doing this.

The easiest way to do it is to start by calculating the acceleration of all the blocks by using F = m*a for all of them together
 
Hi mistymoon_38! :smile:

Hint: Call the acceleration A.

So the net force on the three blocks as a whole is F = 3mA.

Then what is the net force on the first block, to produce an acceleration of A? :smile:
 
Hey! We have the same problem for my Physics Recitation.

I disagree with your block 1 which might lead to your error. I said that The Force Applied is going to the right and The Force (2 on 1) is going to the left.

This means that F(1 on 2) = -F(2 on 1) so it should not equal zero but be the same.
 

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