Can this integral be solved using elementary functions?

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The discussion revolves around the integral \(\int\frac{\cos y}{\sqrt{a-y}}\,dy\), exploring whether it can be solved using elementary functions. Participants are examining the integration techniques and the validity of proposed solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss integration by parts as a method, with one original poster attempting to use substitutions and integration techniques. There is a focus on the cyclical nature of the integration process and the challenges in arriving at a solution.

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The conversation includes corrections regarding the validity of proposed solutions, with one participant acknowledging a mistake in their earlier reasoning. There is an ongoing exploration of whether the integral can be expressed in terms of elementary functions.

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Participants are questioning the assumptions regarding the solvability of the integral with elementary functions and the implications of their integration attempts.

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Homework Statement
Find
[tex]\int\frac{\cos y}{\sqrt(a-y)}\,dy[/tex]

The attempt at a solution
Let U = cos y and dV = [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt(a-y)}[/tex]

I get: cosy.-2√(a-y) - 2∫√(a-y).siny.dy

So, again, i use partial integration:
Let U = siny and let dV = [-2(a-y)^(3/2)]/3

I get: siny.[-2(a-y)^(3/2)]/3 + (2/3)∫[(a-y)^(3/2)].cosy.dy

But the cycle is endless. I need to get the answer 2siny.
 
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No, you don't. "2 sin(y)" can't possibly be correct because the derivative of 2 sin y is 2 cos y, not "[itex]cos(y)/\sqrt{a- y}[/itex]".
 
You are correct. My mistake. I solved it.
 
sharks said:
Homework Statement
Find
[tex]\int\frac{\cos y}{\sqrt(a-y)}\,dy[/tex]

The attempt at a solution
Let U = cos y and dV = [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt(a-y)}[/tex]

sharks said:
You are correct. My mistake. I solved it.

Not with any "elementary" functions; I don't think so.
 

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