Can Two Different Base Representations of an Integer Prove It is Unique?

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This discussion addresses the uniqueness of integer representations in different bases, specifically proving that two distinct base-k representations of integers n and m cannot be equal. The proof utilizes the difference D = m - n, where D is expressed in terms of coefficients c_i derived from the base-k representations. The analysis shows that if c_j is the largest index where coefficients differ, then D is always non-zero, confirming that m does not equal n under the given conditions.

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base representation please help~

It is known that if asks+as-1ks-1+...+a0 is a representation of n to the base k, then 0<n<=ks+1-1.

Now suppose n=asks+as-1ks-1+...+a0 and m=btkt+bt-1kt-1+...+b0 with as,bt not equal to 0, are two different representations of n and m to base k, respectively. Without loss of generality we may assume t>=s. Without using Theorem 1-3(existence and uniqueness of such representation of an integer), prove directly that m not equal to n.

Many many thanks~~~
 
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We consider the difference :
D = m-n = c_tk^t + c_{t-1}k^{t-1} + ... + c_0
Where c_i = b_i - a_i ( i from 1 to t, and a_i = 0 if i &gt; s)

Due to the fact that a_sa_{s-1}...a_1 and b_tb_{t-1}...b_1 are two different representations, c_i must not equal to 0 for every i, otherwise a_i = b_i for all i.

Choose j is the largest number such that c_j is different from
If c_j &gt; 0,then:
D &gt;= k^j -(k-1)(k^{j-1} + ... 1) = k^j -(k^j-1) = 1 &gt;0
If c_j &lt; 0, similarly -D &gt; 0

We always have D different from 0

Good luck.
 

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