Can we demontrate the convergence of perturbation quantum field theory?

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The discussion centers on the convergence of perturbation series in quantum field theory, specifically regarding Feynman diagrams and the implications of the renormalization procedure. Participants explore the utility of perturbative methods despite questions of convergence, touching on concepts like divergent asymptotic series.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the convergence of perturbation series in quantum field theory can be demonstrated after renormalization, expressing concern about the reliability of perturbative methods.
  • Others note that the renormalized perturbation series in quantum electrodynamics (QED) is likely divergent, yet divergent asymptotic series can still provide useful approximations, sometimes yielding very accurate results.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the nature of divergent asymptotic series, suggesting that while convergent series improve accuracy with higher powers, divergent series may lead to less accurate approximations as more terms are added.
  • References to Dyson's work are made, indicating foundational arguments regarding the divergence of perturbation theory in QED.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the convergence of perturbation series, with some asserting that they are divergent while still being useful, and others seeking clarity on the implications of divergence. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall convergence of these series.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the nature of convergence and divergence, as well as the specific conditions under which perturbative methods are considered effective.

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Please teach me this:
Can we demontrate the convergence of perturbation series of quantum field theory(Feymann
diagrams) after making the renormalizing procedure? If we can't demontrate that,why we still consider the perturbative method using in quantum field theory being useful and believable theory?
Thank you very much in advance.
 
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Sorry,I have had an wrong spelling:"demontrate",I mean "demonstrate".I am Vietnamese
 
ndung200790 said:
Please teach me this:
Can we demontrate the convergence of perturbation series of quantum field theory(Feymann
diagrams) after making the renormalizing procedure? If we can't demontrate that,why we still consider the perturbative method using in quantum field theory being useful and believable theory?

The renormalized perturbation series of QED is most likely divergent (and corresponding series in certain simpler l2-dimensional theories are provably divergent). But divergent asymptotic series often give useful approximations, and in case of QED even very accurate ones!
 
Please explain for me what is divergent asymtotic series.It is seem to me that being convergent series,the higher power in series,the more acurate approximation.But in devergent series,the higher power, the less acurate approximation.
 
This reference contains some discussion, including a brief statement of Dyson's intuitive argument:

http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0508017"
 
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ndung200790 said:
Please explain for me what is divergent asymptotic series.It is seem to me that being convergent series,the higher power in series,the more accurate approximation. But in divergent series, the higher power, the less accurate the approximation.

Only for sufficiently high power -- there is a difference between the limit and the approximation quality of a few terms, truncating at a fixed power. For QED, the basic arguments for the divergence of the perturbation series are given in

F.J. Dyson,
Divergence of perturbation theory in quantum electrodynamics,
Phys. Rev. 85 (1952), 613--632.

Things are explained in detail in the entry ''Summing divergent series'' of Chapter B4 of my theoretical physics FAQ at http://arnold-neumaier.at/physfaq/physics-faq.html
 

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