Can you help me solve this tricky integral involving arctanx?

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The discussion revolves around the integral $\displaystyle \int \dfrac{1}{\tan^{-1}(x)}dx$ and its relation to a differential equation. Participants explore the solvability of the integral and its implications for the differential equation $xdy-ydx=\tan^{-1}(y/x)dx$, particularly through the substitution $y=vx$.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about solving the integral, asking for help.
  • Another participant claims that the integral does not have an anti-derivative expressible in elementary terms, suggesting it may be part of a larger problem.
  • A participant provides a detailed approach to solving a related differential equation using the substitution $y=vx$, leading to a separable differential equation.
  • There is a suggestion that the differential equation may only have an implicit solution, with no mistakes found in the previous steps.
  • One participant raises doubt about the validity of the substitution $y=vx$, indicating potential issues with the approach.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the solvability of the integral or the effectiveness of the substitution method. There are competing views regarding the implications of the integral's form and the differential equation's solution.

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Limitations include the uncertainty about the integral's solvability and the assumptions made regarding the substitution method in the context of the differential equation.

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Hello everyone! I need some help with the integral:

$\displaystyle \int \dfrac{1}{\tan^{-1}(x)}dx$

I don't know how to solve it... can you guys help me please?
 
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That function (the integrand) does not have an anti-derivative that can be expressed in elementary terms (at least according to W|A). Is this perhaps part of another problem, where this may be the wrong result?
 
MarkFL said:
That function (the integrand) does not have an anti-derivative that can be expressed in elementary terms (at least according to W|A). Is this perhaps part of another problem, where this may be the wrong result?

Well actually... yes, the orginal problem is to demostrate that the differential equation $xdy-ydx=tan^{-1}(y/x)dx$ can be solved by using the substitution $y=vx$ even for this non-homogeneus equation. So i proceed to solve:

$y=vx$

Then

$dy=vdx+xdv$

Substituing in the original differential equation i did obtain:

$x(vdx+xdv)-vxdx=tan^{-1}(vx/x)dx$

Simplifiyng and re-ordening the equation i get:

$x^{2}dv-{tan}^{-1}(v)dx=0$ (Separable differential equation)

$\dfrac{1}{tan^{-1}(v)}dv=\dfrac{1}{x^2}dx$

Then... to solve it:

$\int \dfrac{1}{tan^{-1}(v)}dv=\int \dfrac{1}{x^2}dx$

$\int \dfrac{1}{tan^{-1}(v)}dv=- \dfrac{1}{x}+C$

But to complete the problem i need to solve the integral and return to the original variable $y$.
 
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I can't see any mistake in your solution so I guess you can just leave it like that and argue that de differential equation has only an implicit solution.
 
Or maybe that y = vx doesn't work after all.

-Dan
 

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