Can you prove the definite value of $f(x)$?

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The discussion centers around the function $f(x)=\dfrac {sin \,3x}{sin\, x}-\dfrac {cos\, 3x}{cos \,x}$ and whether its value can be proven to be always definite. Participants explore the conditions under which $f(x)$ is defined and the implications of certain values of $x$.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants seek to prove that $f(x)$ is always definite, with emphasis on the condition that $sin\,x\,\times cos\,x \neq 0$.
  • One participant questions the meaning of "definite," suggesting that if it refers to being constant, then $f(x)$ may equal 2.
  • Another participant hints at using identities for $sin\,3x$ and $cos\,3x$ to explore the function further.
  • Multiple posts reiterate the original function without introducing new perspectives, indicating a focus on proving its definiteness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of "definite" or whether $f(x)$ can be proven to be constant. There are competing interpretations of the function's behavior.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks clarity on the assumptions regarding the term "definite" and does not resolve the implications of $sin\,x\,\times cos\,x = 0$ on the function's validity.

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$f(x)=\dfrac {sin \,3x}{sin\, x}-\dfrac {cos\, 3x}{cos \,x}$

prove the value of $f(x)$ is always definite
 
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Albert said:
$f(x)=\dfrac {sin \,3x}{sin\, x}-\dfrac {cos\, 3x}{cos \,x}$

prove the value of $f(x)$ is always definite
of course :$sin\,x\,\times cos\,x \neq 0$
if $sin\,x\times \,cos\,x=0$ then $f(x)$ is meaningless
hint :$sin\,3x=?\,\,\,$ $cos\,3x=?$
 
Albert said:
$f(x)=\dfrac {sin \,3x}{sin\, x}-\dfrac {cos\, 3x}{cos \,x}$

prove the value of $f(x)$ is always definite

I do not know what you mean by definiten but if you mean constant then

$\dfrac {sin \,3x}{sin\, x}-\dfrac {cos\, 3x}{cos \,x}$
= $\dfrac {sin \,3x\cos\, x-cos\, 3x\sin\, x}{cos \,x\sin\,x }$
= $\dfrac {sin \,2x}{cos \,x\sin\,x }$
= $\dfrac {2 sin \,2x}{2 cos \,x\sin\,x }$
= $\dfrac {2 sin \,2x}{\sin\,2x }$
= 2
which is constant
 
kaliprasad said:
I do not know what you mean by definiten but if you mean constant then

$\dfrac {sin \,3x}{sin\, x}-\dfrac {cos\, 3x}{cos \,x}$
= $\dfrac {sin \,3x\cos\, x-cos\, 3x\sin\, x}{cos \,x\sin\,x }$
= $\dfrac {sin \,2x}{cos \,x\sin\,x }$
= $\dfrac {2 sin \,2x}{2 cos \,x\sin\,x }$
= $\dfrac {2 sin \,2x}{\sin\,2x }$
= 2
which is constant
yes the definite value (constant) of f(x) is 2
 
Albert said:
$f(x)=\dfrac {sin \,3x}{sin\, x}-\dfrac {cos\, 3x}{cos \,x}$

prove the value of $f(x)$ is always definite

Here's another way to proceed:

We are given:

$$f(x)=\frac{\sin(3x)}{\sin(x)}-\frac{\cos(3x)}{\cos(x)}$$

Combine terms:

$$f(x)=\frac{\sin(3x)\cos(x)-\cos(3x)\sin(x)}{\sin(x)\cos(x)}$$

In the numerator, apply angle-difference identity for sine and in the denominator apply double-angle identity for sine:

$$f(x)=\frac{\sin(3x-x)}{\dfrac{1}{2}\sin(2x)}=2$$
 
another solution:
$\dfrac {sin\,3x}{sin\,x}-\dfrac {cos\,3x}{cos\,x}$

$=\dfrac {3sin\,x-4sin^3x}{sin\,x}-\dfrac {4cos^3\,x -3cos\,x}{cosx}$

$=6-4(sin^2x+cos^2x)=6-4=2$
 

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