Can You Solve the Exponential Equation for Integer Triples $(a, b, c)$?

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In summary, the conversation discusses POTW #385 and its purpose of finding all possible combinations of three positive integers that satisfy a given equation. It defines a positive integer as a whole number greater than zero and suggests approaching the problem by understanding the equation and using mathematical techniques. It also mentions that the integers must be positive and that a computer or calculator can be used, but it is important to show work and explain the thought process.
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Here is this week's POTW:

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Determine all triples $(a,\,b,\,c)$ of positive integers with $a^{(b^c)}=(a^b)^{c}$.

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Congratulations to the following members for their correct solution!(Cool)

1. kaliprasad
2. MegaMoh

Solution from kaliprasad:
We are given $a^{b^c} = a^{bc}$

Or $a^{b^c-bc} = 1$

This has got 2 sets of solutions

1) a = 1 and b and c can be any positive integer

2) a = any positive integer and

$b^c - bc = 0$

Or $b(b^{c-1}) = c$

As b is not zero so we have $ b^{c-1} = c $

if c = 1 we get b any number

Or $b= \sqrt[c-1]c$ $c>=2$

The root can be taken to be integer if c-1 = 1 or c =2 giving b = 2

So solution set $(1,b,c)$ or $(a,2,2)$ or $(a,b,1)$ where a,b,c are any integers.

Alternate solution from MegaMoh:
$a^{b^c}=(a^b)^c$

$ \vdash a^{b^c}=a^{bc} $

$\implies b^c\ln a=bc\ln a$

$\implies (b^c-bc)\ln a=0$(1) $\ln a=0 \implies a=e^0=1$
so $1$ triple is ($1$, $x$, $y$) for any $x\in \mathbb{Z} ^+$ and $y \in \mathbb{Z} ^+$

(2) $b^c-bc=0$

$b^c=bc$

$\implies c\ln b=\ln(bc)=\ln b+\ln c$

$\implies (c-1)\ln b=\ln c$

$\implies \ln b=\frac1{c-1}\ln c=\ln(c^\frac1{c-1})$

$\implies b=c^\frac1{c-1}$

$\implies b^{c-1}=c$, here $c=1$ is a solution regardless of $b$ so another pair is (x, y, 1) for any $x\in \mathbb{Z}^+$ and $y \in \mathbb{Z}^+$

since $y=\sqrt[x-1]{x}$ has an asymptote at $y=1$ and $x=0$ the only positive integers that satisfy that equation are $(2, 2)$ and $(1, y^+)$ (which is a hole). since the asymptote is at $y=1$ so there are no solutions below $(2, 2)$ and another at $x=0$ so there are no solution to the left of $(1, y^+)$
so the only positive integer pairs are that satisfy $a^{b^c}=(a^b)^c$ are (1, x, y), (x, y, 1), and (x, 2, 2) for any $x\in \mathbb{Z} ^+$ and $y \in \mathbb{Z} ^+$
 

Related to Can You Solve the Exponential Equation for Integer Triples $(a, b, c)$?

1. What is the purpose of POTW #385?

The purpose of POTW #385 is to challenge individuals to find all possible triples of positive integers that satisfy a specific equation, as stated in the title. This problem is meant to test problem-solving skills and mathematical reasoning.

2. How difficult is POTW #385?

The difficulty of POTW #385 can vary depending on an individual's mathematical background and problem-solving abilities. Some may find it relatively easy, while others may struggle with it. However, with persistence and a solid understanding of mathematical concepts, anyone can solve this problem.

3. Can I use a calculator to solve POTW #385?

Yes, you can use a calculator to solve POTW #385. However, the use of a calculator should be limited to simple calculations and not relied upon for the entire solution. It is important to show your work and explain your reasoning to fully demonstrate your understanding of the problem.

4. Is there only one correct solution to POTW #385?

No, there are multiple correct solutions to POTW #385. The problem asks for all possible triples of positive integers that satisfy the given equation, so there is not just one correct answer. It is important to thoroughly explain your solution and show all possible solutions.

5. Can I work with others to solve POTW #385?

Yes, you can work with others to solve POTW #385. Collaboration and discussing different approaches can often lead to a better understanding of the problem and potential solutions. However, it is important to write up and submit your own solution in your own words.

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