Can't get my head around reduced mass (particle physics)

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The discussion centers on calculating the reduced mass of the helium ion (4He+) for the purpose of determining the wavelength of the n = 4 → 3 transition. The formula used is m = memN / (me + mN), where m represents the reduced mass, me is the mass of the electron, and mN is the mass of the nucleons. The correct reduced mass value is 3.99 atomic mass units (amu), which is essential for accurately calculating the wavelength using the Rydberg formula. The user encountered confusion regarding unit conversions and the mass of the helium nucleus.

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I know it's probably simple but I just don't understand reduced mass.

I am trying to work out the reduced mass of 4He+.

m = memN / me + mN

Can somebody please just explain step by step what I do. This is only a segment of a 1 mark question and I'm getting my knickers in a frustratingly twisty twist. I've looked at the other threads and websites but still no clue.

The answer needs to be 3.99... but I always end up with 0.99...
 
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Normally you would need to expand more than that on your attempted solution, but I have a suspicion.

What are the units you are quoting your answers in? Atomic mass units? In that case, did you insert the mass of one nucleon instead of that of a helium nucleus?
 
Hi Orodruin

I'll give you the full question to give a better understanding-

Calculate the wavelength of the n = 4 → 3 transition in 4He+ to an accuracy of 4 significant figures. (R∞=109 737 cm-1.) (Fine structure effects can be neglected.)

Now the equation that I'd use for this is:

\frac{1}{λ} = \frac{m}{m_e} R_∞ (\frac{1}{n_1^2} - \frac{1}{n_2^2})

Where λ is wavelength, m is the reduced mass, and R_∞ is Rydberg constant.

So I know the answer for the wavelength is 468.7 nm (I looked), and working backwards to try make sense of reduced mass I got m = 3.99.

I tried it in SI units using the mass in kg of an electron + 2 protons + 2 neutrons but it still didn't help.
 

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