Capacitance, Charge and Voltage (P.D.)

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a parallel plate capacitor, specifically focusing on capacitance, charge, and voltage. The original poster presents a scenario where a capacitor is charged and then modified by inserting a dielectric material, prompting questions about the effects on potential difference and capacitance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the separation of the plates, electric field intensity, and charge stored using relevant formulas. They express confusion regarding the change in potential difference after inserting a dielectric material. Other participants question the assumptions about charge conservation and the relationship between capacitance, charge, and voltage.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing guidance on the relationship between charge, capacitance, and potential difference. There is an acknowledgment of the importance of units in calculations, and the conversation reflects a collaborative effort to clarify concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of maintaining correct units throughout the calculations, as well as the implications of breaking the circuit when inserting the dielectric material. The original poster's frustration with the problem is also mentioned, highlighting the challenges faced in understanding the concepts involved.

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1. One question I'm having a lot of trouble solving is this: The plates of a parallel plate air capacitor have an area of 100cm2. The capacitor has a capacitance of 3.5nF and is connected to a 12V battery. It is fully charged. Calculate the:

a) separation of the plates
b) magnitude of electric field intensity between the plates
c) the charge stored on the capacitor plates

ε0 is equal to 8.854x10-12/m



2. I used C = (ε0εr (1 in this case)A)/(d) and E = V/d and Q = CV



3. The area is 0.01m2, and using the first equation, along with the given capacitance, I found the distance to be 2.53x10-5m. Using the second equation I found the magnitude to be 474308N. Then I used the last equation to find the charge to be 4.2x10-8.

Now, the real difficulty... the circuit is broken, and an insulating material filling the whole distance between the two plates is inserted. It has a dielectric constant of 3.5. This material covers the same area of the plates, plus a border of 2cm.

This border doesn't affect the area, since the first formula deals with the common area, in this case 0.01m2. I was asked for the new capacitance, for which I multiplied the one I was given (3.5nF) by the dielectric constant - for a new capacitance of 1.22x10-8. So far, so good.

However, my stumbling block was when I was asked to find the change in the potential difference between the two plates. How do I find that?

Thanks in advance, any help is extremely appreciated!
 
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MemoNick said:
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2. I used C = (ε0εr (1 in this case)A)/(d) and E = V/d and Q = CV


... Then I used the last equation to find the charge to be 4.2x10-8.

... the circuit is broken, and an insulating material filling the whole distance between the two plates is inserted. It has a dielectric constant of 3.5. This material covers the same area of the plates, plus a border of 2cm.

... for a new capacitance of 1.22x10-8. So far, so good.

... the change in the potential difference between the two plates. How do I find that?
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MemoNick said:
1. One question I'm having a lot of trouble solving is this: The plates of a parallel plate air capacitor have an area of 100cm2. The capacitor has a capacitance of 3.5nF and is connected to a 12V battery. It is fully charged. Calculate the:

a) separation of the plates
b) magnitude of electric field intensity between the plates
c) the charge stored on the capacitor plates

ε0 is equal to 8.854x10-12/m



2. I used C = (ε0εr (1 in this case)A)/(d) and E = V/d and Q = CV



3. The area is 0.01m2, and using the first equation, along with the given capacitance, I found the distance to be 2.53x10-5m.
Okay.
Using the second equation I found the magnitude to be 474308N.
Incomplete units.
Then I used the last equation to find the charge to be 4.2x10-8.
Units?
Now, the real difficulty... the circuit is broken, and an insulating material filling the whole distance between the two plates is inserted. It has a dielectric constant of 3.5. This material covers the same area of the plates, plus a border of 2cm.

This border doesn't affect the area, since the first formula deals with the common area, in this case 0.01m2. I was asked for the new capacitance, for which I multiplied the one I was given (3.5nF) by the dielectric constant - for a new capacitance of 1.22x10-8.
Units?
So far, so good.
Except for your units. You WILL lose marks if your units are not correct or not given.
However, my stumbling block was when I was asked to find the change in the potential difference between the two plates. How do I find that?
What capacitor formula do you have that relates capacitance, charge, and potential difference? What do you know about the charge on the "new" capacitor?
 
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So the charge doesn't change between the two parts? Hence I can use Q/C = V? If yes, then the voltage is 3.44V.

Also, sorry about the units. I had been going at this question for an hour, and I was extremely frustrated. Thanks a lot guys! I really appreciate your help!
 
MemoNick said:
So the charge doesn't change between the two parts? Hence I can use Q/C = V? If yes, then the voltage is 3.44V.
Yup. The charge can't change if the capacitor is not connected to an external circuit.
Also, sorry about the units. I had been going at this question for an hour, and I was extremely frustrated. Thanks a lot guys! I really appreciate your help!

Glad to help!
 

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