Capacitor behaviour (force, electric field, charge and plate distance)

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of capacitors, focusing on the relationships between force, electric field, charge, and plate distance. Participants are analyzing various statements related to these concepts and their interdependencies.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are evaluating the validity of several statements regarding the relationships between force, electric field, charge, and distance. They are attempting to derive conclusions based on equations such as F = E*q and C = ε*A/d, and questioning the constancy of capacitance in their calculations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some participants suggest that certain statements are true or false based on their interpretations of the equations, while others express uncertainty about the implications of their findings. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance is being offered through collaborative reasoning.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, with limited attempts to answer correctly. There is an emphasis on understanding the underlying principles rather than simply arriving at the correct answer.

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Homework Statement



[PLAIN]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14443433/Screen%20shot%202011-02-25%20at%2011.02.23%20AM.PNG

Homework Equations



Q = C*V
E-field = V/d
F = E*q
C = epsilon-naught*A/d

The Attempt at a Solution



A.
false based on
F = E*q
= Vq/d
= C*V^2/d

B.
true based on the inverse relationship demonstrated above

C.
false because as d is varied, there is a change in force, and this force will affect the charge, q, as per F = Vq/d

D.
false because isn't the electric field constant everywhere, and doesn't depend on distance?

E.
true because
Q = C*V
= epsilon-naught*A*V/d
the negative sign comes into play based on http://www.physics.upenn.edu/courses/gladney/phys151/lectures/images/charging_capacitor_circuit.gif" picture I found on google images. I'm not actually sure why the capacitor charges in that manner, though.

Since B and E were true, my answer was "BE" which is wrong.

Help?
 
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hi bedarder! :smile:

(have an epsilon: ε and try using the X2 and X2 icons just above the Reply box :wink:)
bedarder said:
F = E*q
= Vq/d
= C*V^2/d

B.
true based on the inverse relationship demonstrated above

ah, but F = CV2/d has a C in it, which isn't constant :redface:
 
tiny-tim said:
ah, but F = CV2/d has a C in it, which isn't constant :redface:

Ok, so using C = ε*A/d, the equation now becomes
F = ε*A*V2/d2
which makes B false.

So then the answer is simply E? I only have one attempt left to get the question right.
 
bedarder said:
So then the answer is simply E? I only have one attempt left to get the question right.

i'm accepting no responsibility!

but for what it's worth, your arguments, on a quick perusal, don't have any obvious flaws :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
i'm accepting no responsibility!

but for what it's worth, your arguments, on a quick perusal, don't have any obvious flaws :smile:


I felt bold and decided to go with "E", and got the question right!

Thank you tim!

You may be tiny, but your help was big :smile:
 

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