Car Suspension Manufacturing & Metals: Benefits & Drawbacks

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the manufacturing of car suspensions and the types of metals used in their construction. Participants explore the benefits and drawbacks of different materials, particularly metals, and how they perform under various conditions. The conversation includes considerations of cost, performance, and the implications of using different suspension systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding information about car suspension manufacturing and the types of metals used, seeking insights on their benefits and drawbacks under compression.
  • Another notes that most metal suspensions primarily use spring steel, indicating limited variation in materials.
  • A suggestion is made to check out Power Block shows for information on fabricating suspensions, implying that practical examples may be available.
  • Concerns are raised about the cost implications of manufacturing, suggesting that companies may prioritize cheaper materials for acceptable performance over higher-quality options.
  • Participants discuss the performance of race car suspensions, noting that while they provide excellent grip, they may not perform well on rough roads.
  • It is mentioned that the suspension structure is predominantly steel, with rubber grommets in some cases, and that no other metal offers the same combination of strength and durability as steel.
  • One participant argues that race suspensions can outperform stock components in durability, even on rough tracks, while also discussing the use of synthetic bushings for improved ride quality.
  • Details about various components used in suspensions, such as stamped sheet metal and high-quality steel, are provided, emphasizing the materials' roles in performance and durability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of views, with some agreeing on the predominance of steel in suspension manufacturing while others highlight the performance differences between race and standard suspensions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal materials and designs for various driving conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention limitations in available information and the potential impact of cost on material choices, but do not resolve the implications of these factors on suspension quality.

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Im having trouble finding information on google about how car suspensions are manufactured and what type of metals are used. I am curious in understanding what the benefits and drawbacks are to using different metals. For example how certain metals will react when they are under compression. Are there any decent websites that have such information?
 
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There are a lot of different types of car suspension, some use metal springs others use oil/air/rubber springs.
For the metal ones there isn't much variation in the metal used - generally it's spring steel!
 
I'm not sure exactly how much information they have on-line, but it might be worth your while to check out Power Block. Their shows, from 'Muscle Car' to 'Xtreme 4x4', have all had episodes dealing with fabricating suspensions. I think that all of their shows are available in video format on the site.
 
It all boils down to this. How much does it cost the company to make the car as cheap as possible to make the most money. If they can get away with giving you something cheap with OK performance, they will. If you want a 'GOOD' suspensions, look to race cars.

Granted, the ride will be horribly stiff and hard on the back, the suspension will do what its supposed to...make the car grip the road.
 
Cyrus said:
If you want a 'GOOD' suspensions, look to race cars.

Granted, the ride will be horribly stiff and hard on the back, the suspension will do what its supposed to...make the car grip the road.

Sure, race suspensions work great on a nice smooth race track, but what about a rough or pot-holed road? It takes more than stiffness to judge the quality of a suspension system.
 
Other than the spring and damping elements, the suspension structure is almost entirely steel with the exception of rubber grommets in some cases. To speak of "different metals" suggests the idea that something other than steel might be used, but this simply is not going to happen. No other metal presents the combination of strength, formability, and durability that steel does.

Even the spring and damping elements will be built mostly from steel with the possible inclusion of some hydraulic and rubber elements.
 
Mech_Engineer said:
Sure, race suspensions work great on a nice smooth race track, but what about a rough or pot-holed road? It takes more than stiffness to judge the quality of a suspension system.

almost true..but the boys running Mojave and the dirt track boys can attest to race suspension durabilty far surpassing stock components..even Daytona is very ruff..shock travel there is +/- 6 inches and ask any driver , all tracks are brutal..asphalt used to fill cracks are like a washer board...( ok for you young ones, it is totally rough)


everything else said above is true..the main reason synthetic bushings ( not rubber) are used in shock mounts, control arms, A-arms etc..is ride quality and noise..rubber was used but acid rain deteriorates them too quickly whaic his ..btw why windshield wiperes must be replaced every 6 months for max visability
one more thing.. components -stamped sheet metal, Arms, McPherson struts, trailing arms,
ball joints, shock rods, steering linkage, high quailty steel
 

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