Carbon Steel for High T pipeline

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a pipeline distribution system for injecting high-pressure, high-temperature steam into oil wells. Participants explore material options suitable for the extreme conditions of 650 ºF and 1900 psi, considering factors such as wall thickness, corrosion resistance, and the implications of transporting steam over long distances.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the need for a pipeline design that can handle high pressure and temperature, noting that current material options yield a wall thickness of about 2 inches, which may be insufficient.
  • Another participant suggests that for high pressure (2500 psi) and high temperature (up to 700 ºF), wall thicknesses could range from 2.6 to 3.2 inches, referencing nuclear power systems as a comparison.
  • Materials such as martensitic stainless steel (e.g., Aisi 420) are proposed as alternatives to carbon steel due to their better strength retention at high temperatures and resistance to corrosion from steam.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential hazards of a high-pressure pipeline, emphasizing the importance of considering corrosion and erosion, as well as the geographic location for insulation needs.
  • One participant notes the challenges of producing vapor near the oil wells due to vertical sections of the pipeline, suggesting that transporting high-pressure steam over long distances may not be optimal.
  • Discussion includes the possibility of using modified alloys that incorporate elements like nickel, vanadium, or molybdenum to enhance corrosion resistance and strength.
  • Another participant highlights the extreme conditions potentially approaching supercritical states, recommending a review of literature on the corrosive properties of supercritical water.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the suitability of materials for the pipeline, with some advocating for carbon steel while others suggest martensitic stainless steel. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal material choice and the implications of transporting steam over long distances.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of current material options and the need for appropriate codes (e.g., ASME B31.1 or B31.3) in the design process. There are also unresolved concerns regarding the specific conditions of the pipeline, including corrosion and the effects of supercritical states.

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This is my problem: I need to design a pipeline distribution system for steam service. But is thought in order to inject high P, high T steam into oil wells (upstream industry). Inlet conditions into the pipeline will be 650 ºF, 1900 psi. Pipes are several km long, and, because it is a network, diameters vary. My flowrates are quite high, so it would be good to use some 30" pipelines.

I was designing with B.31.1 in order to get a pipe thickness, but the materials I found there give me about 2" thickness for 30", due to the low steel strenght.

Is there any material suitable for my application?

Thanks
 
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This is my problem: I need to design a pipeline distribution system for steam service. But is thought in order to inject high P, high T steam into oil wells (upstream industry). Inlet conditions into the pipeline will be 650 ºF, 1900 psi. Pipes are several km long, and, because it is a network, diameters vary. My flowrates are quite high, so it would be good to use some 30" pipelines.

I was designing with B.31.1 in order to get a pipe thickness, but the materials I found there give me about 2" thickness for 30", due to the low steel strenght.

Is there any material suitable for my application?

Thanks
I believe 2 inches (5.1 cm) is in the ball park. High pressure (2500 psi) and high temperature (up to 700 F) has wall thickness on the order of 2.6 to 3.2 inches (6.6 to 8.1 cm) for nuclear power systems. The piping is often centrifigual cast, while elbow and fittings are statically cast.

Here are some examples of materials:
http://www.petrosteel.ca/ocgt/high_pressure_seamless_pipes.html

And one should apply the appropriate code. It would difficult to use a material not covered by ASME code: B31.1 or B31.3.

Here is an example - http://www.psig.sg/Don/B31.3 Process Piping Course - 17 High Pressure Piping.pdf


A high pressure (2000 psi) pipeline is potentially hazardous. Corrosion and erosion are critical aspects. Depending on the geographic location, the piping should be appropriately insulated.

Depending on the size of the system, it might be better to place the steam generator near a set of wells rather transport high pressure steam over km of pipeline.
 
In an oil well, some km are vertical, so producing the vapour near the use isn't easy.

For such T and P, carbon steel may not be optimum. You might give an eye to martensitic stainless steel: vapour turbines use alloys very similar in composition to Aisi 420 (=X20Cr13), which keeps essentially their good strength at this temperature, even over time, as Cr avoid long-term softening.

Cr (but no Ni) makes them somewhat more expensive than carbon steel, but the better strength at heat allows to reduce the sections, which may save cost (or not). Their resistance to corrosion by steam is good.

Some such alloys add a bit of Ni (1.4057, 19-4...) or V, Mo... (modified Aisi 420) to improve corrosion resistance or strength, but these are details over the cheap and common X20Cr13.

Also, they are sometimes tempered at 280°C instead of 650°C for better yield strength, but I wouldn't go that way for service at 340°C.
 
Thats really extreme conditions. you are probably approaching if not at supercritical conditions for Water and Other gases that may exist in your pipeline. You should probably review literature pertaining to the corrosive properties of supercritical water.
 
The alloys I suggested are used in vapour turbines.
 

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