Cathode Ray Tube with magnetic field

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The discussion centers on calculating the potential difference required to accelerate electrons in a Cathode Ray Tube (CRT) influenced by a magnetic field of 1.10 x 10^-2 T. The acceleration of the electrons is given as 9.08 x 10^14 m/s², and the distance to the screen is 1 meter. Participants suggest using kinematic equations and energy formulas, specifically E = (1/2)mv² and V = E/q, to derive the potential difference. The importance of solving symbolically before substituting values is emphasized to simplify calculations.

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  • Understanding of kinematic equations, specifically v² = v₀² + 2ad
  • Familiarity with energy concepts, particularly E = (1/2)mv²
  • Knowledge of electric potential and charge relationships, specifically V = E/q
  • Basic principles of electromagnetism, including magnetic force equations
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Homework Statement



A solenoid is placed beneath a CRT that produces a magnetic field of 1.10 x -2. The CRT is 1 meter away from a screen.
The electrons that make up the beam were accelerated from rest through a potential difference(V) at the beginning of the CRT. Acceleration of the electrons in the magnetic field is 9.08 x 1014 m/s2.
What is the potential difference required to accelerate the electrons.

See image for diagram http://imgur.com/OLIRC3j2. Relevant equation
E=Energy
m=mass
v=velocity
q=charge
V=potential difference
d=distance
a=acceleration


V=E/q
E=(1/2)mv2
v(final)2=v(initial)2 + 2ad

The Attempt at a Solution


I figure that I can solve for v(final) because I have all the variables. I can then use v(final) in the E=(1/2)mv2 formula to solve for E. Once I have E, i should be able to plug it into V=E/q.

Any help would be appreciated
 
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bob dobilina said:

Homework Statement



A solenoid is placed beneath a CRT that produces a magnetic field of 1.10 x -2. The CRT is 1 meter away from a screen.
The electrons that make up the beam were accelerated from rest through a potential difference(V) at the beginning of the CRT. Acceleration of the electrons in the magnetic field is 9.08 x 1014 m/s2.
What is the potential difference required to accelerate the electrons.

See image for diagram http://imgur.com/OLIRC3j2. Relevant equation
E=Energy
m=mass
v=velocity
q=charge
V=potential difference
d=distance
a=acceleration


V=E/q
E=(1/2)mv2
v(final)2=v(initial)2 + 2ad

The Attempt at a Solution


I figure that I can solve for v(final) because I have all the variables. I can then use v(final) in the E=(1/2)mv2 formula to solve for E. Once I have E, i should be able to plug it into V=E/q.

Any help would be appreciated
Yes, that sounds like a plan, though you did not explain how you will find the velocity.
My advice is to solve it entirely symbolically, not plugging in any numbers until you have a final formula. You may find there's some cancellation.
 
haruspex said:
Yes, that sounds like a plan, though you did not explain how you will find the velocity.
My advice is to solve it entirely symbolically, not plugging in any numbers until you have a final formula. You may find there's some cancellation.
v(final)2=v(initial)2 + 2ad

Initial velocity is 0 because it is at rest, so final velocity will be equal to whatever "2ad" turns out to be.
So E will look something like this
E = (1/2)m(2ad)2
Therefore, potential difference should be
V=E/q
V=((1/2)m(2ad)2)/q

I am unsure if it is okay if I use final velocity in my final equation, or if i should use average velocity?
 
bob dobilina said:
v(final)2=v(initial)2 + 2ad
I don't think so. Where are you getting a and d from for this?
 
haruspex said:
I don't think so. Where are you getting a and d from for this?
a and d are given to us in the question. This formula is one of the kinematics formula provided to me.
V final 2 = Velocity initial 2 + 2ad
 
bob dobilina said:
a and d are given to us in the question. This formula is one of the kinematics formula provided to me.
V final 2 = Velocity initial 2 + 2ad
Be specific. What are you using for a and d, out of the supplied information?
 
haruspex said:
Be specific. What are you using for a and d, out of the supplied information?

For d I am using the distance of the screen from the CRT, which is 1 meter.
For a, I am using the acceleration of the electrons in the magnetic field, which is 9.08 x 1014 m/s^2
 
bob dobilina said:
For d I am using the distance of the screen from the CRT, which is 1 meter.
For a, I am using the acceleration of the electrons in the magnetic field, which is 9.08 x 1014 m/s^2
In the equation v2=2ad, the acceleration must be acting along the distance d. Where is the magnetic field act in relation to the 1m, and in what direction?
 
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haruspex said:
In the equation v2=2ad, the acceleration must be acting along the distance d. Where is the magnetic field act in relation to the 1m, and in what direction?
The magnetic field is acting in a clockwise direction, which is why it pushes the electron the right side of the screen.

Hmmm, I know that E=Vq, therefore Vq=(1/2)mv2 so i need to find v.

Since the problem tells me the acceleration in the magnetic field, would I be able to use Force=massxacceleration to find the magnetic force?
Then with the magnetic force, use this formula:
Magnetic Force =qvB
(B=Magnetic Field)
,to solve for v?
 
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bob dobilina said:
The magnetic field is acting in a clockwise direction, which is why it pushes the electron the right side of the screen.

Hmmm, I know that E=Vq, therefore Vq=(1/2)mv2 so i need to find v.

Since the problem tells me the acceleration in the magnetic field, would I be able to use Force=massxacceleration to find the magnetic force?
Then with the magnetic force, use this formula:
Magnetic Force =qvB
(B=Magnetic Field)
,to solve for v?
Yes, that's how you need to find v here.
 
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Ok, thank you.
 
  • #12
Hi haruspex. Second part of the question here. Would appreciate any advice on this one. The only thing I can come up with is reversing the current of solenoid, but not sure how to prove this with the formulas.
 

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bob dobilina said:
Hi haruspex. Second part of the question here. Would appreciate any advice on this one. The only thing I can come up with is reversing the current of solenoid, but not sure how to prove this with the formulas.
Since haruspex may still be in bed (Australia), can I suggest (1) what effect is there on the mag. force when B is reversed, and (2) does the magnitude of the deflection depend on the magnitude of B?
 
  • #14
rude man said:
Since haruspex may still be in bed (Australia), can I suggest (1) what effect is there on the mag. force when B is reversed, and (2) does the magnitude of the deflection depend on the magnitude of B?
Thanks rude man, I should be able to figure it out from here...
 

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