Cauchy Boundary Conditions on a Wave

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The discussion revolves around the application of the D'Alembert solution to the wave equation, specifically in the context of an infinitely long string with defined initial conditions. The original poster is tasked with sketching the displacement of the string at various time intervals given the initial displacement and the condition of the string being at rest.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the full solution from the D'Alembert form and questions whether the resulting expression represents a standing wave. Other participants suggest simpler methods for sketching the wave at specific times and emphasize the importance of boundary conditions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the wave behavior and the implications of the boundary conditions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the piecewise nature of the solution, and there is a recognition of the need to clarify the conditions under which the functions are defined.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the validity of certain assumptions regarding the wave functions and their behavior over an infinite domain. Participants are considering the implications of these assumptions on the overall solution and its representation.

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Homework Statement



So using the D'Alembert solution, I know the solution of the wave equation is of the form:

y(x,t) = f(x-ct) + g(x+ct)

I'm told that at t=0 the displacement of an infinitely long string is defined as y(x,t) = sin (pi x/a) in the range -a<= x <= a

and y =0 otherwise.

The string is initially at rest.

I'm told that the waves move along the string with speed c and told to sketch the displacement of the string at t=0, t=a/2c and t=a/c

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So substituting t=0 into the d'alembert solution gives

f(x) + g(x) = sin pix/a

similarly since the string is initially at rest, we can calculate that f(x) - g(x) = const. therefore f(x) = 1/2sin pix/a + k where k is some const. and g(x) = 1/2 sin pix/a - k

So is the full solution y(x,t) = 1/2 [ sin (pi(x-ct)/a) + sin(pi(x+ct)/a) ] ? Isn't this a stationary wave..? I am not sure how to sketch for t = a/2c etc...thanks :)
 
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I think you're overcomplicating this. You can easily sketch the wave at t=0; the equation's given to you. For t=a/2c, the wave travels at speed c, so the pattern at t=0 would just be shifted by a/2c*c=a/2.
 
Thanks..I do see that, but I'm trying to understand the general method so that I can apply it to situations where the boundary conditions aren't so simple...

any guidance would be great
thanks
 
No, you do not get standing waves on an infinite string.
Remember that f(x)=g(x)= sin(pix/a) is valid only in the interval between [-a, a ], and both functions are 0 everywhere else.
Letting time run, the argument of f(x) is replaced by x-ct and that of g(x) by x+ct. The condition above means that

f(x) = 1/2 sin(pi/a(x-ct)) if -a<=x-ct <=a that is -a+ct<=x<=a+ct

and g(x)= 1/2 sin(pi/a(x+ct)) if -a<=x+ct <=a that is -a-ct<=x<=a-ct ,

and y=0 everywhere else.

Can you sketch y(x,t) now?

ehild
 
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ehild said:
No, you do not get standing waves on an infinite string.
Remember that f(x)=g(x)= sin(pix/a) is valid only in the interval between [-a, a ], and both functions are 0 everywhere else.
Letting time run, the argument of f(x) is replaced by x-ct and that of g(x) by x+ct. The condition above means that

f(x) = 1/2 sin(pi/a(x-ct)) if -a<=x-ct <=a that is -a+ct<=x<=a+ct

and g(x)= 1/2 sin(pi/a(x+ct)) if -a<=x+ct <=a that is -a-ct<=x<=a-ct ,

and y=0 everywhere else.

Can you sketch y(x,t) now?

ehild

Sorry I'm not quite sure I agree with what you've written here :S

I thought it was that f(x) + g(x) = sin pix/a (rather than f(x) = g(x) = ...)

and f(x) - g(x) = constant.

So f(x) = 1/2 sin pix/a + k
and g(x) = 1/2 sin pix/a - k

so f(x) + g(x) = 1/2 sin pi(x-ct)/a + 1/2 sin pi (x+ct)/a...? Over the limits on x that you have spelt out..

which seem to be two waves of equal magnitude, phase etc moving in opposite directions? i.e. a standing wave?
 
OK, you are right, but that constant is arbitrary, so choose it zero for start.
The sum of two waves of the same frequency and amplitude moving in opposite direction in a closed interval would produce a standing wave, but it is not the case here.
Your function is not y(x.t)=1/2 sin (pi(x-ct)/a)+ 1/2 sin (pi(x+ct)/a) in the whole interval from minus infinity to infinity, but you need a piece-wise definition:

y(x,t) =f((x-ct) + g(x+ct)

where f(x) = 1/2 sin(pi/a(x-ct)) if ct-a<=x<=ct +a , zero otherwise

and g(x)= 1/2 sin(pi/a(x+ct)) if -ct-a<=x<=-ct +a, zero otherwise.

y(x,t) = 0 outside [-ct-a, -ct+a] U[ct-a, ct+a].

Try to sketch y for t = 4a/c, you will understand what I mean.

If you want to include an arbitrary constant, you can do it, by subtracting it form g and adding to f, it is just shifting them up or down.

ehild
 
Ahh great help. I see now. Thanks ehild.
 

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