Cauchy Repeated Integration Explanation?

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The discussion revolves around the Cauchy formula for repeated integration, focusing on understanding the mechanics of the formula, particularly the integration limits and the reasoning behind integrating with respect to specific variables. Participants explore the concept through examples and visualizations.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a detailed explanation of the Cauchy formula for repeated integration, specifically questioning the integration with respect to sigma.
  • Another participant illustrates the concept using a two-nested integral example, describing the geometric interpretation of the integration region in the number plane.
  • A different participant provides a method of deriving repeated integrals by substituting derivatives iteratively, demonstrating the process of integrating a function multiple times.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the change of integral limits in a proof by induction, expressing initial confusion but later indicates they resolved their question independently.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the explanation of the integration limits or the reasoning behind the Cauchy formula, as questions and clarifications are still being raised.

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Some participants express uncertainty regarding the change of limits in the proof, indicating a need for further clarification on this aspect.

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TheDemx27 said:
why are we integrating with respect to sigma, up to sigma in the equation before it?
The easiest way to understand this is to look at the case with only two nested integrals.

$$f^{(-2)}(x)=\int_a^x\int_a^{\sigma_1}f(\sigma_2)d\sigma_2d\sigma_1$$

Now draw the square bordered by (a,a),(a,x),(x,x),(x,a) in the number plane and shade the region in which the integral is being performed, where we map ##\sigma_1## to the horizontal axis and ##\sigma_2## to the vertical axis.
[You may find it easier to visualise this if you set ##a=0,x=1##, and then generalise it later]

The outer integration is along the horizontal axis.
The inner integration is in the vertical direction and, for a given value of ##\sigma_1##, it integrates along the vertical line from ##(\sigma_1,a)## to ##(\sigma_1,\sigma_1)##.

The integration region is the triangle with vertices (a,a), (a,x), (x,x). The triangle is bounded by the horizontal and vertical axes and the 45 degree line with equation ##\sigma_2=\sigma_1##.
 
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Start with f(x1) = ∫0x1f'(x2)dx2.
Now replace f'(x2) with its own integral of f''(x3):
f(x1) = ∫0x1[∫0x2f''(x3)dx3]dx2.
The part within square brackets, [], is that substitution.
You can keep doing this as many times as you wish.
 
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Thankyou both. One last thing, could someone explain the change of the integral's limits in the third step of the proof by induction? I get that choosing the lower limit as t and the upper limit as x will give you the desired result, but I don't see why you are allowed to do that.
(edit: figured it out on my own)
 
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