Center of mass for two small particles

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The problem involves two small particles with masses m1 and m2 that attract each other with a force inversely proportional to the cube of their separation. The scenario describes the motion of these particles from an initial state where one is moving towards the other, who is at rest, until they collide.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the motion of the center of mass (CoM) and its implications for the particles' positions at the time of collision. There is an exploration of the relationship between the CoM's movement and the velocities of the individual particles.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights regarding the movement of the center of mass and its velocity, while others have questioned initial assumptions about the CoM's behavior. The discussion reflects a productive exploration of concepts without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Participants are navigating the implications of the problem's constraints, including the absence of external forces and the nature of the force between the particles. There is an emphasis on understanding the motion of the center of mass in relation to the collision event.

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1. Two small particles of mass m1 and mass m2 attract each other with a force that varies with the inverse cube of their separation. At time t0 , m1 has velocity v directed towards m2 , which is at rest a distance d away. At time t1 , the particles collide.

How far does m1 travel in the time interval (t0 and t1 )? Express your answer in terms of some or all of the variables m1, m2, t1, t0, v, and d





3. The Attempt at a Solution . I think it can be solved by noticing that since there are no external forces acting on the system, the center of mass will not move. So finding it, would give the final position of the particles at t1. Taking position of m1 at t0 as reference point:
$$r_{cm}=m2*d/(m1+m2)$$

But this is wrong. Could someone point me where the mistake is?
 
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But the centre of mass IS moving! One of the bodies is moving, the other is stationary. At the moment they contact, our interest in the situation ends.
 
Ya. I see it. Thankyou. So then, would it be correct to proceed this way?
Sincé the center of mass is moving with velocity v and there is no external forcé acting, it will keep moving same velocity. So it will travel distance $$d_{cm}=v(t1-t0)$$ from it's initial position.
So at t1 it will be at $$r_{cm}=m2*d/(m1+m2)+v(t1-t0)$$.
At this momento particles collide, so it will be the position of m1. Is this correct?
 
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I think that's right, the CoM will not change its velocity while the pair interact.

Sincé the center of mass is moving with velocity v
Not velocity v.
 
Correct answer is $$\frac{m_2\cdot d}{m_1+m_2}+v_{cm}(t_1-t_0)$$ with $$v_{cm}=\frac{m_1\cdot v}{m_1+m_2}$$.
 

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