Centre of mass of a rod with varying density

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The problem involves finding the total mass and the x-coordinate of the center of mass of a solid metal rod with varying density, defined by the function ρ(x) = (3x² + 10x) / 25, over specified dimensions. The rod is oriented in a three-dimensional space with defined limits for x, y, and z.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the evaluation of integrals for calculating total mass and center of mass, questioning the results obtained by the original poster. There is a focus on the implications of the density function on the center of mass location.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the need to show detailed steps in the integral evaluations. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's reasoning regarding the expected position of the center of mass, with suggestions for further exploration of the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential discrepancies in the mass calculation and the importance of integrating with respect to all dimensions, particularly in the context of the center of mass calculation.

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Homework Statement


A solid metal rod with dimensions 5 x 2 x 1 is placed with one corner at the origin, such that 0≤x≤5, 0≤y≤2 and 0≤z≤1. The rods density is described by ρ(x) = (3x2 +10x) / 25
a) find the total mass of the rod
b) find the x-coordinate of the centre of mass of the rod.

Homework Equations


Total mass, M = ∫ dm = ∫ ρ dV
X coordinate of COM = (1/M) * ∫xdm = (1/M) * ∫xρ dx

The Attempt at a Solution


a) By substituting the density function into the Total mass integral and doing a triple integral over dxdydx, i get:
M = ∫∫∫ (3x2 +10x) / 25 dx dy dz = ∫∫ [(x3 +5x2) / 25] dy dz with limit of 5 and 0.
From there I continue and get an answer of M = 20 units
My problem arises in part b) when I do:
(1/M) * ∫xdm = (1/M) * ∫xρ dx = (1/M) * ∫ (3x3 +10x2) / 25 dx and use the limts of 5 and 0, i arrive at an X-coordinate for the centre of mass as 1.77. This doesn't make sense to me as surely with the stated denisty function, the mass if increasing as you progress from x=0, resulting in the COM being shifted towards the x=5 end?
Any help would be appreciated !
 
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Barnes1995-5-2 said:

Homework Statement


A solid metal rod with dimensions 5 x 2 x 1 is placed with one corner at the origin, such that 0≤x≤5, 0≤y≤2 and 0≤z≤1. The rods density is described by ρ(x) = (3x2 +10x) / 25
a) find the total mass of the rod
b) find the x-coordinate of the centre of mass of the rod.

Homework Equations


Total mass, M = ∫ dm = ∫ ρ dV
X coordinate of COM = (1/M) * ∫xdm = (1/M) * ∫xρ dx

The Attempt at a Solution


a) By substituting the density function into the Total mass integral and doing a triple integral over dxdydx, i get:
M = ∫∫∫ (3x2 +10x) / 25 dx dy dz = ∫∫ [(x3 +5x2) / 25] dy dz with limit of 5 and 0.
From there I continue and get an answer of M = 20 units
My problem arises in part b) when I do:
(1/M) * ∫xdm = (1/M) * ∫xρ dx = (1/M) * ∫ (3x3 +10x2) / 25 dx and use the limts of 5 and 0, i arrive at an X-coordinate for the centre of mass as 1.77. This doesn't make sense to me as surely with the stated denisty function, the mass if increasing as you progress from x=0, resulting in the COM being shifted towards the x=5 end?
Any help would be appreciated !
Hello Barnes1995-5-2. Welcome to PF !

Yes, you are correct to reason that the Center of Mass must lie to the right of the center of the bar.

You may have to show details of how you evaluated those integrals in order that we can give much help.

I disagree with your mass calculation.
 
Could you find the mass for 0≤x≤w and equate it to the mass from w≤x≤5?
 
SammyS said:
Hello Barnes1995-5-2. Welcome to PF !

Yes, you are correct to reason that the Center of Mass must lie to the right of the center of the bar.

You may have to show details of how you evaluated those integrals in order that we can give much help.

I disagree with your mass calculation.
This is how i did the mass integral
 

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Barnes1995-5-2 said:
This is how i did the mass integral
That's fine.

How about integral in the numerator for the COM calculation?
 
In getting the COM, you forgot to integrate with respect to y. Your answer should be 2x as large.

Chet
 

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