Centrifugal Force and Angular Velocity

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating centrifugal force and understanding the units of angular velocity in that context. The original poster is specifically questioning how angular velocity, when expressed in radians per second, relates to obtaining force measured in Newtons.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to reconcile the units of angular velocity with the resulting force units, expressing confusion about the role of radians. Some participants provide insights into the relationship between angular velocity and centripetal acceleration, while questioning the treatment of radians as dimensionless.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring the relationship between angular velocity and force units, with some participants providing clarifications about radians being dimensionless. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas, but no consensus has been reached regarding the original poster's specific question about unit conversion.

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The original poster appears to be working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the depth of exploration into the topic. There is a focus on understanding fundamental concepts rather than deriving a complete solution.

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Homework Statement


I'm working on a problem in which I have to calculate the centrifugal force. I know the equation and everything, I'm just stuck on what units my angular velocity should have.

Homework Equations


\vec{F_{cen}}=-m\omega\times(\omega \times r')


The Attempt at a Solution


I've evaluated the above with angular velocity having units rotations*s^-1. I know that angular velocity should have units rad/s but I'm wondering how one gets units of Newtons when using rad/s as the unit of angular velocity. I've never really understood this, what is so special about radians that you can ignore them when converting units?
 
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I'm not sure if I can fully answer your question, but I can at least answer some.

Why can you drop the degrees when you do cos(degree)? I don't know the answer, all I know is you just can.

You can get N from angular velocity this way. F = ma. In this case, a is centripetal acceleration, which is = w^2 * r. Now you get m/s^2, multiply that by mass and you get Newtons.
 
lylos said:
I've never really understood this, what is so special about radians that you can ignore them when converting units?
You don't just ignore them; a radian is a dimensionless unit of measure . A radian is defined as the arc length of a circle subtended by the central angle between 2 radii of a circle, divided by the radius of the circle, that is, rad=s/r, where s is the arc length subtended by the cenrtral angle, and r is the radius of the circle. As you should see, the radian has units of length/length, which is dimensionless. That's how you end up with Newtons as the centripetal force unit, as Cashmoney has noted.
 
That makes better sense. Thank you!
 

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