Centripetal Force: Normal Contact Force & Velocity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between centripetal force, normal contact force, and velocity, particularly in the context of vehicles navigating inclined or curved roads. Participants explore the conditions under which a vehicle may lose contact with the road and the role of normal force in providing centripetal force.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if centripetal force can only be provided by normal contact force and whether a vehicle loses contact with the road when the normal force is zero or negative.
  • Another participant clarifies that velocity (v) refers to the object's speed and normal force (n) is the force acting perpendicular to the surface.
  • A participant asserts that on a flat road, the normal force cannot act as the centripetal force.
  • Discussion shifts to inclined roads, with a participant suggesting that for normal force to contribute to centripetal force, the vehicle must be moving along a path that curves upward away from the surface.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for a free-body diagram to analyze the forces acting on a car on an inclined, curved road, identifying gravitational, normal, and frictional forces as relevant.
  • There is a question about whether the inclined road is banked, indicating a potential distinction in the discussion regarding road design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of normal force in providing centripetal force, particularly in relation to flat versus inclined roads. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific conditions under which a vehicle may lose contact with the road.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the conditions under which normal force can provide centripetal force, nor have they resolved the implications of different road inclinations on this relationship.

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if the centripetal force can be only provided by normal contact force.

centripetal velocity is Vs. If V<Vs, then it will lose contact of the road?
Or it will lose contact when n=0? Or when n<0?

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What are V and n?
Is this homework?
 
no it is not

v is just the velocity of the object and n is the normal force

i m just confusing on this concept
 
cloveryeah said:
n is the normal force
On a flat road, the normal force cannot act as the centripetal force.
 
i mean at a road that have inclination
 
cloveryeah said:
i mean at a road that have inclination
In order for the normal force to be a centripetal force, the vehicle would need to be moving in a path that curves up away from the surface. If the road is flat, that means that the vehicle would need to lift off the road, even if the road were flat, but inclined.

["Flat" as A.T. intended it means that the road must stay in a single plane. In other words, it cannot curve vertically]
 
cloveryeah said:
i mean at a road that have inclination
Draw yourself a free-body (i.e. force) diagram for a car on an inclined, curved road. If the situation is what I think it is, there should be 3 forces: gravitational, normal force, and frictional force.

Any force that has a component toward or away from the center of the circular path contributes to the centripetal force.
 
cloveryeah said:
i mean at a road that have inclination
By this, do you mean that the road is banked?

Chet
 

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