Centripetal Motion and Masses at the Fair

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Centripetal motion in rides, such as those with chairs hanging from chains, demonstrates that all chairs rise at the same angle regardless of the mass of the occupants. This occurs because the ratio of centripetal force to weight, both of which are proportional to mass, results in the mass canceling out. The angle of rise is determined by the angular speed and the length of the chains. To calculate the height each chair rises, Newton's 2nd law is applied, considering the net force in the horizontal direction and the tension in the chain. Understanding these principles clarifies the mechanics behind the ride's operation.
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Hi, I was told about Centripetal Motion and learned some about rides at the fairs. There is one ride with chairs hanging by a chain in a circle that simply rotates at a certain speed without turning at any angle. Does anyone understand why all of the chairs move up at the same angle even though each person will have a different mass, and even the empty chairs move the same. How can all of the masses cancel? Thanks.
 
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It turns out that the angle a chair rises depends on the ratio of the centripetal force (which is proportional to mass) to the weight (which is also proportional to mass). So the mass does cancel. As long as the chains are the same length, the seats will rise to the same angle for a given angular speed regardless of the mass of the person.
 
Thank you very much!
 
What procedure do you exactly follow to determine the height each chair is going to rise?
 
Apply Newton's 2nd law. The chairs are centripetally accelerated, so there is a net force in the horizontal direction. Realizing that the tension in the chain acts along its length allows you to calculate the angle the chain makes with the vertical.
 
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