Chain Rule for Functions of Two Variables Partial Differentiation Question

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The discussion focuses on applying the chain rule for functions of two variables to find ∂f/∂t at the point (s,t)=(1,1), given the equations x=ts²-1 and y=ln(s)-t. The initial calculations led to an incorrect result of 0.5 instead of the expected answer of 1. Participants highlighted the need for clarity regarding the function f and its dependency on x and y, as well as the correct application of partial derivatives. The confusion stemmed from the transition between variables and the lack of a defined function f.

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Homework Statement



Let x=ts^2 -1 and y=ln(s)-t

Use the chain rule for functions of two variables to determine ∂f/∂t at (s,t)=(1,1)





The Attempt at a Solution



y=ln(s)-t

∂f/∂t= ∂f/∂s X ∂s/∂t -1

t=x+1/s^2

∂t/∂s= -2(x+1)/s^3

∂s/∂t=s^3/-2(x+1)

∴ ∂f/∂t= s^2/-2(x+1) -1

= ∂f/∂t= s^2/-2(ts^2) -1

∂f/∂t (1,1) = 1/-2 +1

=0.5

However, the answer is 1 and I have spent two hours trying to work out why I am wrong. All help will be met with great appreciation. Thanks <3
 
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Kushwoho44 said:

Homework Statement



Let x=ts^2 -1 and y=ln(s)-t

Use the chain rule for functions of two variables to determine ∂f/∂t at (s,t)=(1,1)
What is f? Are we to assume that f is some differentiable function of x and y?

The Attempt at a Solution



y=ln(s)-t

∂f/∂t= ∂f/∂s X ∂s/∂t -1
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{\partial x}{\partial t}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{\partial y}{\partial t}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial s}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}(2st)+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{1}{s}[/tex]
At (s, t)= (1, 1), that would be
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial s}(1, 1)= 2\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}[/tex]

t=x+1/s^2
I have no clue where this is coming from. Before, x and y were functions of s and t. Now t is a function of x and s? Is this a different problem?

∂t/∂s= -2(x+1)/s^3

∂s/∂t=s^3/-2(x+1)

∴ ∂f/∂t= s^2/-2(x+1) -1

= ∂f/∂t= s^2/-2(ts^2) -1

∂f/∂t (1,1) = 1/-2 +1

=0.5

However, the answer is 1 and I have spent two hours trying to work out why I am wrong. All help will be met with great appreciation. Thanks <3

Given f a function of x and y and [itex]x=ts^2 -1[/itex] and [itex]y=ln(s)-t[/itex] as before
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\frac{\partial x}{\partial t}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\frac{\partial y}{\partial t}= s^2\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}- \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}[/tex]
At (s, t)= (1, 1) that is
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}- \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}[/tex]

It's impossible to give specific numbers, as you seem to have, because you have not given f as a function of x and y.
 
Hi, I'll upload the link to the question. I highly doubt here is an error in the actual question.
 

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