Change (9-16cos theta) ^1.5 into another form

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The discussion revolves around the expression (9 - 16cos(θ))^1.5, with a focus on transforming it and integrating it over a specified interval. The subject area includes trigonometric functions and integration techniques.

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  • Participants explore the validity of manipulating the expression (9 - 16cos(θ))^1.5 and question whether it can be simplified or integrated without expansion. There is an attempt to evaluate the expression at specific values of θ to check for consistency.

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Some participants have raised concerns about the correctness of the expression and its implications for integration, particularly regarding the nature of the result (complex numbers) and the involvement of elliptic functions. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the original problem.

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Participants note that the expression may lead to complex results due to the value of the cosine function over the integration interval. Additionally, there is a mention of an attachment that clarifies the expression to be integrated, which has led to some confusion in the discussion.

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Mod note: Based on an attachment in a later post in this thread, the actual expression is
##(9 - 16\cos^2(\theta))^{3/2}##

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my working is (9^1.5) - (16^1.5)[ (cos theta)^1.5 ] = 18-64[ (cos theta)^1.5 ] , is it correct ?
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chetzread said:
my working is (9^1.5) - (16^1.5)[ (cos theta)^1.5 ] = 18-64[ (cos theta)^1.5 ] , is it correct ?
Try setting ##\theta = \pi/3## in ( 9-16cos theta) ^1.5 and (9^1.5) - (16^1.5)[ (cos theta)^1.5 ]. Do you get the same value?
 
DrClaude said:
Try setting ##\theta = \pi/3## in ( 9-16cos theta) ^1.5 and (9^1.5) - (16^1.5)[ (cos theta)^1.5 ]. Do you get the same value?
No, how should it be?
 
What is ##(a+b)^c##?
 
DrClaude said:
What is ##(a+b)^c##?
Dun know , can you help ?
 
DrClaude said:
What is ##(a+b)^c##?
here's my actual problem , i want to integrate $$\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta$$
Mod note: From the attachment, now shown inline, the above should actually be
##\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos^2\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta##

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Is there any other way to integrate this without expanding the terms ?
 
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chetzread said:
here's my actual problem , i want to integrate $$\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta$$Is there any other way to integrate this without expanding the terms ?

The answer will be a complex number, because ##9 - 16 \cos \theta< 0## over part of the integration region, so when you take its 3/2-power you get an imaginary number. Besides that, your integration is not "elementary": according to Maple, the indefinite integral of ##(a - b \cos\theta)^{3/2}## involves the so-called Elliptic functions.
 
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@chetzread,
This is what you said:
chetzread said:
here's my actual problem , i want to integrate $$\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta$$
The attachment you posted later in this thread shows that the integral is really this: ##\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos^2\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta##

Because of sloppiness on your part, you wasted a fair amount of time of the people trying to help you. Please start a new thread.
 

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