Change of state and potential energy

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The discussion clarifies that the potential energy (PE) of molecules increases during the melting of ice, contrary to the initial assumption that it should decrease due to increased molecular distance. The relationship between force (F) and potential energy (U) is defined by the equation U = -dF/dr, indicating that as the distance from the equilibrium position (r0) increases, the potential energy rises. This is illustrated in a graph referenced in the discussion, which shows that the minimum potential energy occurs at r0, and any deviation from this point results in increased potential energy.

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A book said that the PE of molecules increase during melting of ice but shouldn't it be decrease since the distance between molecules increase ?Isnt the force between the molecules determine the PE?
 
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You're right about the force ##F## and potential energy ##U## being interlinked. They have the following relation

U = -\frac{dF}{dr} \approx -\frac{\Delta F}{\Delta r}

See the below figure.
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The "rest" state of the molecules is at ##r_0##, where potential energy in minimum. If the distance increases from ##r_0##, it can be seen from the above graph that the potential energy will also increase.
 
H Smith 94 said:
The "rest" state of the molecules is at ##r_0##, where potential energy in minimum. If the distance increases from ##r_0##, it can be seen from the above graph that the potential energy will also increase.
Well, if the distance decreases from ##r_0##, doesn't the potential energy increase also ? :rolleyes:

What does the graph represent in the context of melting ice ?

see other threads on melting water, e.g. this one
Wikipedia on ice and on properties of water is good, too.
 

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