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The discussion revolves around changing the order of integration for a double integral defined by the limits \(\int_0^2\int_{2x}^{4x-x^2} dydx\). Participants are exploring the geometric interpretation of the region defined by these limits and how to accurately describe it for integration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss sketching the region to better understand the bounds and question the appropriateness of using polar coordinates. There is an attempt to redefine the limits of integration, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their choices.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the correct limits for the integration. Some participants have provided guidance on reconsidering the bounds based on the geometric interpretation of the region, while others are reflecting on their previous attempts and acknowledging mistakes in their reasoning.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the original problem statement and are discussing the implications of their choices regarding the limits of integration. There is an acknowledgment of multiple solutions to the equation involved, which may affect the interpretation of the region.

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Homework Statement


Change the order of integration and perform the integration.

[tex]\int_0^2\int_{2x}^{4x-x^2} dydx[/tex]

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I've tried changing it to this but I end up with the wrong answer..

[tex]0<=y<=2, \sqrt{4-y}+2 <=x<=\frac{1}{2}y[/tex]
 
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Sketch the region, what does it look like to you? Have you met polar coordinates yet?
 
I've sketched it, it's looks a little cut of a parabola.. I can't see how I can describe it using polar coordinates :/
 
Nevermind, it seems that polar coordinates are not nesscary, but you should reconsider your limits. Let's look at how the region is bounded. We have;

[tex]0\leq x \leq 2[/tex]

[tex]0\leq y \leq 4[/tex]

[tex]x\leq \frac{1}{2}y \equiv y \geq 2x[/tex]

[tex]y \leq 4x-x^2[/tex]

Would you agree?
 
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Yes, I do agree. What I did was solve the last equation and so I got
[tex]0<=y<=2, \sqrt{4-y}+2 <=x<=\frac{1}{2}y[/tex] ..

Still can't see what I'm doing wrong. I'm kinda slow
 
You've chosen the wrong solution to your equation, [itex]y=4x-x^2[/itex] has two solutions;

[tex]x = 2\pm\sqrt{4-y}[/tex]

Now, your original equation [itex]y=4x-x^2[/itex] goes through the point (x,y)=(0,0), therefore, your new solution must also go through the same point if it is to describe the same region. Which of your solutions goes through the origin?
 
Ah, darn I should have seen that! Thank you for being so patient!
 
Dafe said:
Ah, darn I should have seen that! Thank you for being so patient!
Nah, its no problem, I didn't spot it at first until I started sketching the region :smile:
 

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