Changing KMESH/KINTS from azimuthal to polar direction in MCNP6

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of cylindrical coordinates in MCNP6 for modeling a cylindrical source and obtaining dose calculations. Participants explore the configuration of the FMESH tally, specifically the orientation of the polar angle in relation to the source geometry.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to model a cylindrical source in MCNP6 and wishes to use the FMESH tally in a way that measures dose as a function of radial distance and polar angle in the YZ plane.
  • Another participant references the MCNP6 user manual to suggest using GEOM=CYL and explains the roles of the I, J, and K directions in cylindrical coordinates.
  • A participant clarifies their intention to keep the radial and z directions unchanged but to redefine the polar angle K so that it aligns with a specific orientation, with 0 degrees pointing in the +z direction.
  • There is a suggestion that the axis of the cylinder could be aligned along a specified line, but this is met with resistance from the original poster who insists on a different definition of theta.
  • One participant expresses confusion over the desire to redefine theta, questioning why it should not represent the angle around the circumference of the cylinder, given that the source is cylindrical.
  • The original poster reiterates that their modeling approach requires a specific definition of (r, theta) relative to the source's longitudinal axis.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of rotating the FMESH to align with the source cylinder, but notes that this would not accommodate the desired angular measurement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the redefinition of the polar angle K in the context of cylindrical coordinates. There are competing views on how the angle should be defined and whether the FMESH can accommodate the desired configuration.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the FMESH capabilities regarding spherical polar coordinate options and the potential need for alternative approaches, such as using TMESH.

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I am modeling a cylindrical source in MCNP6 and would like to use the FMESH tally in cylindrical coordinates. I am looking for the dose to water from the source as a function of radial distance as well as polar angle running from 0 to 180 degrees in the YZ plane not around Z. Is there a way to do this?
 
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Sure. I'm looking at the MCNP6 version 1 user manual and it's Section 3.3.5.25, page 3-67. You use GEOM=CYL then the I direction is radial, J is the z direction, and K is the theta.

To get the dose you need the conversion factors. These allow you to convert from a flux at a particular energy to a dose. You will find a table that gives the energy range split up into a bunch of bins, and dose conversion factor for each bin. You can get those from the appropriate health physics standard. You enter them in the same way you would with a type F4 tally. That's detailed in Section 3.3.5.8, page 3-211.
 
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Hello,
What I want to do is leave I(radial) and J(z) as they are in cylindrical coordinates , but change K so that is is not rotating about the z axis. What I want to do is have zero degrees pointing in the +z direction and 180 degrees in the -z direction and 90* at y =0. I drew a crude picture of what I want to do.
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Do you mean you want to have the axis of the cylinder along a line you specify? That's also in the FMESH description. Whatever the axis of the cylinder is, theta is defined to be the angle around the circumference of the cylinder.
 
No. I do not want theta to be defined as the angle around the circumference of the cylinder. I want theta to be defined as it is in spherical coordinates as the polar angle. Where theta =0 is along the z positive axis and theta = 180 is in the negative z direction.
If it is not possible I can use TMESH just thought it might more elegant to have the mesh and source geometry be the same.
Thanks for your help!
 
Oh. Except your first post said you were using a cylindrical source. And you drew a cylinder. If your source is cylindrical then why don't you want theta defined as the angle round the circumference?

If your source is really spherical, sadly FMESH does not have a spherical polar coordinate option.
 
Yes the source I am modeling is cylindrical. The formalism I am following dictates that (r,theta) specifies a point relative to the source longitudinal axis. Here is a picture of the geometry that the protocol calls for.

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I suppose you could turn the fmesh 90 degrees to the source cylinder. In your drawing you could have the z-axis of the fmesh coming out of the screen. That would give you a circular mesh in the plane of the source. It won't give you the other angle though.
 

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