Characteristic method + Jacobian

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the method of characteristics to solve a first-order semi-linear partial differential equation (PDE) and the implications of finding a Jacobian determinant equal to zero. Participants explore whether this condition indicates the non-existence of a solution or merely a lack of uniqueness.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the implications of a Jacobian determinant of zero in the context of the method of characteristics, seeking clarity on whether it suggests no solution exists or if the solution is not unique.
  • Another participant requests the specific PDE problem to better understand the context of the inquiry.
  • A third participant provides the PDE and initial condition, detailing the parameterization of the characteristic curves.
  • A later reply asserts that the initial condition lies on a characteristic, which prevents the construction of a solution, explaining that the method of characteristics relies on moving away from the initial condition along a defined curve.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the Jacobian being zero, with some suggesting it indicates a problem with solution construction while others focus on the uniqueness aspect. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitive implications of the Jacobian condition.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the dependence on the specific characteristics of the initial condition and the nature of the PDE, which may affect the ability to construct a solution. There are unresolved aspects regarding the mathematical steps involved in the method of characteristics.

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If I am using the method of characteristics to solve a PDE [tex]\Psi(x,t)[/tex] (first order, semi-linear), and after using the method of characteristics I find that the Jacobian
[tex]|\frac{\partial{(x,t)}}{\partial{(\sigma,\eta)}}| = 0[/tex]
(where [tex]\sigma[/tex] and [tex]\eta[/tex] are parameters for the curve) does this imply that no solution exists, or just that the solution is not unique? I could not find this in my textbook.
 
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Could you post the problem please?
 
Sure.

[tex]x\frac{\partial\psi}{\partial{x}} + t\frac{\partial\psi}{\partial{t}} + (x + 2t)\psi = 3xt \textnormal{ With intitial Condition:} \psi (x,4x)=x[/tex]

This leads me to:

[tex] x(\sigma,\eta) = \eta e^{\sigma}[/tex]
[tex] t(\sigma,\eta) = 4\eta e^{\sigma}[/tex]

(I can fill in those steps if necessary too)
 
No, that won't be necesary. The problem is that your initial contidion is over a characteristic, and you can't construct a solution. Remember that the method of characteristics uses the initial condition as curve of departure (parametrized by [itex]\eta[/itex]) and then tries to move further from it as far as the ode system allows it (parametrized by [itex]\sigma[/itex]). In your case, this can't be done, as the characteristic is colinear with the initial condition, which means the normal vector for the parametrized surface is zero (so the surface is not well defined).

Let me give it a little more tought, and i'll get back to you.
 
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