Charged particle in a B field, tensor notation

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a charged particle in a magnetic field, specifically focusing on the covariant equations of motion and the implications of tensor notation in this context. The original poster attempts to derive the equations of motion and analyze the trajectory of the particle under the influence of a constant magnetic field.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the equations of motion using tensor notation and question the assumptions made regarding the orientation of the magnetic field and the velocity components of the particle. There is an exploration of the implications of these choices on the trajectory of the particle.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the nature of the motion and the assumptions that may need to be reconsidered. There is an acknowledgment of the need to explore the general solution to the equations of motion rather than a specific case. The original poster is encouraged to revisit their calculations and assumptions regarding the trajectory.

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Participants note that the original poster's choice of the magnetic field orientation and the assumption of no velocity component in that direction may limit the generality of their solution. There is an ongoing discussion about the correct interpretation of the problem requirements and the implications of the derived equations.

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Homework Statement


A charged particle of charge q with arbitrary velocity ##\vec v_0## enters a region with a constant ##\vec B_0## field.
1)Write down the covariant equations of motion for the particle, without considering the radiation of the particle.
2)Find ##x^\mu (\tau)##
3)Find the Lorentz transformation such that the motion of the particle is restricted to a plane.
4)Calculate the dipole term of the fields and the average radiated EM power by the particle.

Homework Equations


##\tau=t\gamma##

The Attempt at a Solution


1)##\frac{dp^\alpha}{d\tau}=qU_\beta F^{\alpha \beta}## would be my reply.
Where ##p^\alpha## is the four-momentum, ##U_\beta## is the four-velocity and ##F^{\alpha \beta}## is the electromagnetic tensor.
2)I solved the equation found in 1) by writing the tensors under matrix form. I got that ##x^\alpha=(ct,x^1(t),x^2(t),0)## where ##x^1(t)=\frac{mv_{0x}}{qB_0}\sin \left ( \frac{qB_0 t}{m} \right ) + x^1_0## and ##x^2(t)=\frac{mv_{0x}}{qB_0}\cos \left ( \frac{qB_0 t}{m} \right ) + x^2_0##. Now I just realize that they asked in terms of ##\tau## and not t. Well I get ##x^1(\tau)=\frac{mv_{0x}}{qB_0\sqrt{\gamma}}\sin \left ( \frac{qB_0\sqrt{\gamma}\tau}{m} \right )##.
3)I'm out of ideas on this one. I know I can express the tensor of the Lorentz transformation as a matrix (I guess this way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_transformation#Matrix_forms) but I'm not sure what they're asking for when they ask for the motion to be in a plane. Isn't the motion already in the x-y plane in my case? I picked ##\vec B_0## as ##B_0\hat z## originally.
 
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fluidistic said:
but I'm not sure what they're asking for when they ask for the motion to be in a plane. Isn't the motion already in the x-y plane in my case?

Yea, your motion is in a plane, but it is not the most general solution to the equations of motion. In trying to solve 2, you solved the special case 3.
 
Orodruin said:
Yea, your motion is in a plane, but it is not the most general solution to the equations of motion. In trying to solve 2, you solved the special case 3.
I see. Is it because I chose the magnetic field to be oriented in the z direction? I would have thought that I'd need a boost in a particular direction to solve 3), not picking a convenient orientation.
 
fluidistic said:
I see. Is it because I chose the magnetic field to be oriented in the z direction?
It is the combination of selecting the B-field in the z-direction and assuming that there is no velocity component in the z-direction.
 
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Orodruin said:
It is the combination of selecting the B-field in the z-direction and assuming that there is no velocity component in the z-direction.
Well then I miserably failed, even at solving part 3 since there's no way I can pick the velocity to vanish in the z direction (unless I apply a boost maybe?). I'll try to solve the problem in a correct way. Which means, I believe, that I can pick the orientation for the B field to be in the z direction but I can't assume that there's no speed in the z direction.
 
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Ok I've redone part 2. I had made some mistakes previously I think.
I get x^\mu (\tau) = (c\gamma \tau , \gamma ^2 v_{0x}\frac{B_0q}{m}\sin \left ( \frac{m\tau }{q\gamma B_0} \right ) +x_0 , -\frac{mv_{0x}}{qB_0}\cos \left ( \frac{m \tau}{q\gamma B_0} \right ) +y_0, z_0 ).
The fact that I get different amplitudes in front of the sine and cosine really bothers me. This would make an elliptical trajectory in the x-y plane projection instead of circular path. Am I doing things wrong?
 
The easiest way to check is to insert your result into the original differential equation ...
 

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