Checking an implicit solution of a diff eqn

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The discussion revolves around determining if the equations e^(x-y) + e^(y-x)(dy/dx) = 0 and e^(2y) + e^(2x) = 1 define implicit functions of x and if they serve as implicit solutions to the differential equations. A participant attempted to solve the right equation for y, then differentiated and substituted back into the left equation but encountered difficulties. Suggestions were made to use implicit differentiation instead, which simplifies the process significantly. A correction was provided regarding the manipulation of exponential functions, emphasizing the importance of applying the correct mathematical principles. Ultimately, the use of implicit differentiation proved to be a much simpler and effective approach to solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


"Determine whether the equations on the right define implicit functions of x. For those which do, determine whether they are implicit solutions of the differential equations on the left."

e^(x-y) + e^(y-x)(dy/dx) = 0, e^(2y)+e^(2x) = 1

The Attempt at a Solution


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Apologies for blurry camera picture, I still don't know latex.
I solved the right equation for y, then took the derivative, and plugged both back into the left equation. I've been looking at this for about half an hour and I can't figure out where I've gone wrong.

edit: the answer says that it is an implicit solution
 
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You should probably try using implicit differentiation, like your title suggests. If e^(2x)+e^(2y)=1 then 2*e^(2x)+2*y'*e^(2y)=0 differentiating both sides by x, right? Solve for y' and substitute into the differential equation. It's often a lot easier then solving for y (which might not even be possible) and then differentiating.
 
Hi df606! :smile:

You wrote something like this two times:

e^{\frac{1}{2}\log(1-e^{2x})}=\sqrt{e}(1-e^{2x})

You seem to be doing e^{ab}=e^ae^b, which is of course incorrect. The correct formula is

e^{\frac{1}{2}\log(1-e^{2x})}=\left( e^{\log(1-e^{2x})}\right)^{1/2}=\sqrt{1-e^{2x}}

I did not check from there on...
 
Aha! Thank you micromass. I figured I was doing something like that. However, after doing what Dick suggested, the problem became incredibly simple, and I find it rather hilarious that I didn't try doing that earlier.
 
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