Chemistry and properties of small engine motor oils

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around comparing the properties of engine oils used in lawnmowers and snow blowers, focusing on how these properties relate to intermolecular forces and carbon chain lengths. The scope includes conceptual understanding and exploratory reasoning regarding the behavior of oils under different temperature conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the viscosity of engine oil changes with temperature, becoming thicker in winter and thinner in summer, which may affect lubrication.
  • Another participant questions whether the same oil can be used for both machines and prompts consideration of the properties that influence oil selection.
  • A participant notes that longer carbon chains lead to higher melting and boiling points, implying that medium-length chains may be preferable for winter use to avoid pastiness.
  • Another participant reiterates the importance of carbon chain length and emphasizes the need to discuss intermolecular forces that influence oil properties, particularly in relation to lubrication and cooling in varying temperatures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the significance of carbon chain length and temperature effects on oil properties, but there is no consensus on specific properties or the best oil for each application. The discussion remains exploratory with multiple viewpoints presented.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the definitions of properties being discussed, as well as the need for further clarification on intermolecular forces and their direct implications on oil behavior in different conditions.

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Homework Statement



Compare the properties of a engine oil used in your lawnmower with that used in a snow blower. relate these properties to the intermolecular forces in each type of oil.

The Attempt at a Solution



i think this has something to do with carbon chains and how in winter the oil may get thicker and become pasty in the engine and how in summer it may get too thin and not be able to lubricate the pistons?

i am not too sure about this one. some help is greatly appreciated.
 
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you're on the right track, would you use the same oil for both machines? what property are you looking at to help you choose which oil to use in which machine.

What is it about the structure of the carbon chains that will help you decide which oil to use?
 
the longer the chain is, the higher the melting and boiling point. so if the chain is too big the oil may become pasty in winter and will need a really hot winter to make it prefectly lubricant. so you want engine oil with a medium size carbon chain?
 
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the longer the chain is, the higher the melting and boiling point. so if the chain is too big the oil may become pasty in winter and will need a really hot winter to make it prefectly lubricant. so you want engine oil with a medium size carbon chain?

The problem asks to "Compare the properties of a engine oil used in your lawnmower with that used in a snow blower. relate these properties to the intermolecular forces in each type of oil."

Carbon chain length is not a property but gives rise to some. Talk a little bit about the intermolecular forces in each type of oil.

Both of these oils are used both to lubricate the engine and to cool it (these engines have no radiator). One is designed to work in the summer and the other in the dead of winter when it is extremely cold. They both have to flow just after the engine is started and when the engine is hot. What properties are important in these cases? What type of intermolecular forces give rise to these properties?
 

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