Choice of a generator set for a drilling pump

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenges of selecting an appropriate generator set for powering a 30 kW drilling pump, specifically addressing issues related to inrush current during startup and the generator's capacity to handle it. The scope includes technical explanations and practical problem-solving related to generator and motor characteristics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports that the generator set (45 kW) fails to operate due to an inrush current peak of 190 A during the pump's startup, which triggers an overcurrent fault.
  • Another participant suggests that the inrush current for starting a motor can be as high as 7 times the running current and proposes either acquiring a larger generator or a pump motor with better starting characteristics.
  • A participant questions the voltage level and suggests that voltage loss in the cables could lead to higher current draw, proposing that the overcurrent trip setting on the generator should be checked.
  • One suggestion is made to fit an unloading valve to the pump to alleviate the issue.
  • The original poster later reports success by reducing the startup ramp time to 3 seconds, indicating that a shorter startup duration may prevent the generator from detecting excessive current.
  • The original poster reflects on their previous misunderstanding regarding the relationship between acceleration ramp settings and startup current, noting that longer start times may not be beneficial for their specific application.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the appropriate generator size and motor characteristics, with no consensus reached on the best solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach to managing inrush current.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention factors such as voltage levels, cable sizing, and the characteristics of asynchronous motors, indicating that these elements may influence the performance of the generator and pump setup. However, specific assumptions and calculations are not fully detailed.

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Hello everyone,
I am faced with a problem where I have to power a 30kw drilling pump, with a generator of 45kw (model Gesan), but it does not work. At start-up the current reaches the peak of 190 A and descends gradually, for information the start-up of the pump of the drilling is done by a starter Altistart 22 of Schneider with an acceleration set to 15 seconds, and the generator sets overcurrent fault and stop.
I heard that for this kind of application the generator must have a power of at least 3 times the pump.
At the moment I am doing tests by acting on the parameters of the starter: acceleration and limitation of current.
Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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The inrush current for starting a motor can reach as much as 7 times the running current. Most gensets can stand a very brief overload, but it sounds like your situatation involves a much longer inrush period. I suspect you have two choices: (1) get a bigger genset, or (2) get a different pump motor with more acceptable starting characteristics. Not always a happy choice, but that's life!
 
You don't mention the voltage but is that France in your profile picture? In which case..

Quick and dirty calculation for the peak power gives 190 * 230 = 43.7 kW

My guess is the peak current might even be a bit more than 190A? What's the overcurrent trip set to on the generator?

Are the cables between generator and pump correctly sized? If there is any voltage loss in the cables then the current drawn might be higher. For example if the pump load remains constant as the voltage reduces then the current increases. For example 43.7kW at 210V needs 208A.
 
Fit an unloading valve to the pump .
 
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Thank you for your answers,
I solved, as even the problem by setting the boot ramp to 03 sec, I guess the generator does not see such a short startup overcurrent.
Just before finishing, I have long believed that by increasing the acceleration ramp (either in the dimmer or in the starter) the current is lowered, except in my present case I notice that the current Of startup persisted during the acceleration phase (which was before 15 sec) and my genset fails after 5 sec.
And by looking at the startup curve of an asynchronous motor, I notice that what happens is very logical. And the lengthening of the starting time of an engine serves much more in applications with mechanical loads which present a great deal of inertia. And in my case it was useless to delay the start too much.
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