Choosing Between a C or W on a Transcript: What's Worse?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of receiving a grade of C versus a W (withdrawal) on a college transcript. Participants explore the potential impact on GPA, perceptions by employers, and the context in which a W is received, considering both academic and personal factors.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a C is generally worse than a W, especially if the W is from a non-essential course.
  • Others argue that a W may not significantly affect GPA and can be preferable if it allows for better focus on more relevant courses.
  • There is a viewpoint that the context of the withdrawal matters; withdrawing from a fundamental course may raise more questions than a C.
  • Some participants share personal experiences where a W did not hinder their academic progress or career opportunities.
  • Concerns are raised about the perception of W's, with some suggesting they may imply poor performance or lack of commitment.
  • A participant with teaching experience claims that most students who withdraw are failing, suggesting a W is often viewed negatively.
  • Counterarguments indicate that a W can be justified for various reasons and does not necessarily reflect poor performance.
  • Some participants emphasize the importance of retaking core courses to ensure mastery of the material, regardless of whether a W or C is received.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on whether a C or W is worse. The discussion reflects multiple competing views on the implications of each grade type.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the significance of a W may depend on the number of W's accumulated, the courses involved, and individual circumstances surrounding the withdrawal.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering course withdrawals, academic advisors, and individuals interested in the implications of academic records on future opportunities.

  • #31
So many people say they want at least B's or they want to Withdraw. You should not withdraw to avoid a C; withdraw to avoid D's or F's. Withdraw to change your schedule; either within the semester or among semesters. Withdraw if early enough, to change programs or fields.
 
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  • #32
mathwonk said:
i have been teaching for 30 years at a state school, and have given W's to approximately 40% of all calculus students during that time.

Of those, all but one that I can recall were failing miserably when they took the W.

so that is actually far higher than 99% F's.

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So, let me get this straight, 40% of all your Calculus students ended up with Ws. You must be a hard teacher or it must be a tough subject for kids these days. Makes me feel fortunate that I'm passing 2nd Semester Calc.

Anyway, it looks like I'll be opting for a W in first year Physics this year. Even if I pass, it's be with a C and passing is not at all representive of what I know. I need to learn the material again, the class just moves WAY too fast.
 
  • #33
The 40% drop-with-W that Mathwonk reports is not surprising. Students will often make a program change for their own reasons or choose to avoid D or F by withdrawing before the deadline. Some of them find the material to be difficult; sometimes because of inadequate preparation, or because of over-extending their chosen program during the semester. The serious students will try again in a following semester. This dropping with W is not limited to just Calculus or mathematics or sciences. Students do this throughout many subject areas. Watch students' attendance habits and you will see it.
 

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