CIRCUIT ANALYSIS: Use source transformation to find the Voltage Vo

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The discussion revolves around a circuit analysis problem involving source transformation to determine the voltage V_x in a given circuit. Participants are exploring the application of circuit laws and transformations in the context of electrical circuits.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss transforming independent current sources and controlled sources, and they express uncertainty about how to proceed after combining resistors. Questions arise regarding the relationship between current and voltage in series circuits and the application of Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL).

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on using KVL and questioning the inclusion of certain voltage terms in their equations. There is an ongoing exploration of different interpretations of the circuit setup and calculations.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note potential missing elements in their equations and question assumptions about the circuit configuration, such as the treatment of the controlled source and the voltage across specific resistors.

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Homework Statement



Use source transformation to find the voltage [itex]V_x[/itex] in the circuit below.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5150/chapter4problem24ij9.jpg


Homework Equations



[tex]V_S\,=\,i_S\,R[/tex]

[tex]i_S\,=\,\frac{V_S}{R}[/tex]

KCL, KVL, v = i R, super-node?


The Attempt at a Solution



I transform the independdant current source on top first.

[tex]V_S\,=\,(3\,A)\,(10\Omega)\,=\,30\,V[/tex]

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4210/chapter4problem24part2be2.jpg


Then I transform the V.C.C.S. on the right.

[tex]V_S\,=\,(2\,V_x)\,(10\Omega)\,=\,20\,V_x[/tex]

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/9743/chapter4problem24part3kh6.jpg


Then I combine the two resistors in series.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5192/chapter4problem24part4bx8.jpg


Here I am stuck, how do I proceed?
 
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Since all your elements are in series, the current is the same.
What is Vx in terms of this current?
Replace this value in the controlled source and equate.
 
[tex]v\,=\,i\,R[/tex]

[tex]V_x\,=\,i\,(8\Omega)\,=\,8\,i[/tex]

[tex]20\,V_x\,=\,20\,(8\,i)\,=\,160\,i[/tex]

But how do I find i?
 
VinnyCee said:
[tex]v\,=\,i\,R[/tex]

[tex]V_x\,=\,i\,(8\Omega)\,=\,8\,i[/tex]

[tex]20\,V_x\,=\,20\,(8\,i)\,=\,160\,i[/tex]

But how do I find i?

Use KVL:

-40 + 8i - 30 + 160i = 0
 
So we have

[tex]168\,i\,=\,70[/tex]

[tex]i\,=\,\frac{70}{168}\,A[/tex]

Now use the [itex]i[/itex] to find the [itex]V_x[/itex].

[tex]V_x\,=\,I\,R\,=\,\left(\frac{70}{168}\,A\right)\,(8\Omega)\,=\,\frac{10}{3}\,V[/tex]

[tex]V_x\,=\,\frac{10}{3}\,V\,\approx\,3.33\,V[/tex] <----- Right?
 
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VinnyCee said:
So we have

[tex]168\,i\,=\,70[/tex]

[tex]i\,=\,\frac{70}{168}\,A[/tex]

Now use the [itex]i[/itex] to find the [itex]V_x[/itex].

[tex]V_x\,=\,I\,R\,=\,\left(\frac{70}{168}\right)\,(8\Omega)\,=\,\frac{10}{3}\,V[/tex]

[tex]V_x\,=\,\frac{10}{3}\,V\,\approx\,3.33\,V[/tex] <----- Right?

Seems OK to me.
 
SGT said:
Use KVL:

-40 + 8i - 30 + 160i = 0

Why aren't we adding the voltage across he 20Ohm resister? The equation should read -40 + 8i - 30 + 20i + 160i = 0 right?
 
yup very rite, we do need to include that 20i, otherwise the answer is wrong!
 
The Correct answer is :-

Using KVL (Clockwise) for Loop, we get...

-40 + Vx - 30 + 20i+ 20Vx = 0

21Vx + 20i = 70. // i = Vx/8

21Vx + 20(Vx/8) = 70

Vx ( 21 + 20/8) = 70

Vx = 2.97 Approx (3v)
 

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