Clarification on calculating Electrical Force and charge

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electrical force and charge on two small metal-coated styrofoam spheres suspended from nylon threads. The spheres are negatively charged and positioned at an angle from the vertical, prompting questions about the relationship between the forces acting on them.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to understand the equation Fe/Fw = 0.12/0.43 and its derivation in the context of the forces acting on the spheres. There are inquiries about relevant equations related to charges and forces, as well as the need for a diagram to clarify the problem setup.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring the equilibrium of forces acting on the spheres and discussing the implications of the angles involved. Guidance has been offered regarding the need for a free body diagram and the relationship between the forces, but no consensus has been reached on the specific equation in question.

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Participants note that no additional information or diagrams are provided with the problem, which may limit the clarity of the discussion. The original poster expresses a desire for pointers rather than direct answers, indicating a focus on understanding the underlying logic.

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Please see the following question and the answer. I don't understand how Fe/Fw = 0.12/0.43

Question?
Two small metal-coated styrofoam spheres each of mass 2.80e-6 kg are
attached to nylon threads 45.0 cm long and hung from a common point. The
spheres are then charged equally negative and the angle each supporting thread
makes with the vertical is 16°. Calculate the charge on each sphere.

Answer:

let Fe = electrical force
Fw = Weight force = 2.8e-6 X 9.8 = 2.744e-5 N
if θ = 16°, then hypotenuse = 0.45m, Opposite = 0.12 m, and adjacent = 0.43m

If the system is blanced:

Fe/Fw = 0.12/0.43

Can someone please explain the above equation?

Thank You.
Yudi
 
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yudi said:
Please see the following question and the answer. I don't understand how Fe/Fw = 0.12/0.43

Question?
Two small metal-coated styrofoam spheres each of mass 2.80e-6 kg are
attached to nylon threads 45.0 cm long and hung from a common point. The
spheres are then charged equally negative and the angle each supporting thread
makes with the vertical is 16°. Calculate the charge on each sphere.

Answer:

let Fe = electrical force
Fw = Weight force = 2.8e-6 X 9.8 = 2.744e-5 N
if θ = 16°, then hypotenuse = 0.45m, Opposite = 0.12 m, and adjacent = 0.43m

If the system is blanced:

Fe/Fw = 0.12/0.43

Can someone please explain the above equation?

Thank You.
Yudi

Welcome to the PF.

Is there a diagram included with this problem? It would be easier to explain it if you showed the diagram.

Also, what are the relevant equations when solving problems that involve charges and forces? There is an equation that relates the force to the two charges and the distance between them. Can you list that equation please?
 
berkeman said:
Is there a diagram included with this problem? It would be easier to explain it if you showed the diagram.

No. There is no diagram given with the question. I used the info in the question to draw the triangle. With 32° at the apex and as the included angle and 0.45 m as the sides.

Also, what are the relevant equations when solving problems that involve charges and forces? There is an equation that relates the force to the two charges and the distance between them. Can you list that equation please?

Fe = kq1q2/d2

To use the above equation, I need the Electrical force. This is where I am stuck.

I looked at the answer and it has the following:
In a balanced system:

F1/F2 = s2/s1

How is Fe/Fw = 0.12/0.43

If the forces are in a straight line, the above equation makes sense but in this case, they are at an angle.
 
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Draw a free body diagram for each sphere.

The gravitational force is at a right angle to the electric force. Each sphere is in equilibrium, so there must be a third force acting on each sphere.
 
No extra information other than what's in the question is given.
Can someone please explain the logic in solving this problem.
I don't need the answer, just pointers on how to solve this question.
 
yudi said:
No extra information other than what's in the question is given.
Can someone please explain the logic in solving this problem.
I don't need the answer, just pointers on how to solve this question.

Did you read SammyS' post?
 

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