Clarifying Orthogonal Vectors: Understanding Homework Notation

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The discussion revolves around understanding the notation and requirements of a homework problem related to orthogonal vectors. The original poster expresses confusion about whether the notation (v_1, v_2) represents two separate vectors in three-dimensional space or a single vector with components v_1 and v_2. This confusion is compounded by differing notation conventions between the professor's materials and the textbook.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the meaning of the notation used in the problem, questioning whether v_1, v_2, and v_3 are vectors or components of a vector. Some suggest using the dot product and cross product to find orthogonal vectors, while others seek clarification on the notation and context of the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants have raised various questions and interpretations regarding the notation and the nature of the vectors involved. Some have offered insights into the mathematical principles of orthogonality, while others have confirmed that the components are indeed part of a vector. The discussion reflects a productive exploration of the problem's requirements without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes that the homework is a review set and that the notation used by the professor differs from that in the textbook. There is also mention of a lack of specific values for the vectors involved, which adds to the uncertainty in interpreting the problem.

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I'm confused on the following questions.

(1) Find a vector that is perpendicular to (v_1,v_2).
(2) Find two vectors that are perpendicular to (v_1,v_2,v_3.

This homework set was written by the professor (it is review) before we actually get into the new material. The notation the book uses is that italics variables names are vectors. However in this homework set the professor uses bold face to denote vectors.

I'm just unsure what the question is asking. Is (v_1,v_2) supposed to be 2 vectors in cartesian coordinates of the third dimension. Or does (v_1,v_2) denote one vector with components v_1 and v_2.

I thought this review was going to be very straightforward, so I waited to the last minute (so I don't have time to ask him).

Anyways, any clarification would be helpful. What do you think it would be? I know that:

[tex]\vec v \cdot \vec y = 0[/tex]
means that the vectors are orthogonal to each other.

and that
[tex]\vec v \times \vec y = \vec a[/tex]
means that [itex]\vec a[/itex] is orthogonal to both [itex]\vec v[/itex] and [itex]\vec y[/itex].

is that enough knowledge to complete the exercise?

thanks in advance.
 
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Are particular values of v_1,v_2, or v_3 given anywhere prior to the exercise? What is the notation used in the section? e.g. are vectors denoted by the use of angle braces (e.g., [tex]\vec{v}=\left< 3,4\right>[/tex])?
 
no values are given to v_1, v_2, or v_3.

The review problems are actually from Strang's Calculus (which I do not own). The professor picked this book and grabbed some review questions from it. The book for our class is Strang's Introdution to Applied Mathematics.

wait... he put that the questions are from Strang's Calculus on the top of the page. Since Strang uses italics as vector notation in the other book, I'm going to just assume that v_1, ... are actually vectors and in R^3.

:) I hope that is right though.
 
I have stewart, what edition, page, and chapter?
 
FrogPad said:
I'm confused on the following questions.

(1) Find a vector that is perpendicular to (v_1,v_2).
(2) Find two vectors that are perpendicular to (v_1,v_2,v_3.

This homework set was written by the professor (it is review) before we actually get into the new material. The notation the book uses is that italics variables names are vectors. However in this homework set the professor uses bold face to denote vectors.

I'm just unsure what the question is asking. Is (v_1,v_2) supposed to be 2 vectors in cartesian coordinates of the third dimension.
Or does (v_1,v_2) denote one vector with components v_1 and v_2. [\quote]
It wouldn't make sense to ask for a vector perpendicular to three vectors. I think it is clear that "v_1", "v_2", "v_3" are components of a vector. There are, of course, an infinite number of correct answers to these. Remember that two vectors are perpendicular if and only if their dot product is 0 and pick easy numbers.


I thought this review was going to be very straightforward, so I waited to the last minute (so I don't have time to ask him).

Anyways, any clarification would be helpful. What do you think it would be? I know that:

[tex]\vec v \cdot \vec y = 0[/tex]
means that the vectors are orthogonal to each other.

and that
[tex]\vec v \times \vec y = \vec a[/tex]
means that [itex]\vec a[/itex] is orthogonal to both [itex]\vec v[/itex] and [itex]\vec y[/itex].

is that enough knowledge to complete the exercise?

thanks in advance.
All you really need is to know that two vectors are perpendicular if and only if their dot product is 0.

For example if I were asked to find 2 vectors both perpendicular to
<1, 3, -4>, I might choose <4, 0, 1> and <3, -1, 0>. Do you see why?
 
OK... the homework was not actually due until Wednesday. Anyways I asked the professor today, and the v1,.. are actually components of the vector.

Halls:
I was thinking about using the cross product under the asssumption that v1,v2 were actually vectors. I thought it would be an easy way to compute a vector that is orthogonal to the two. Knowing that they are components makes it a pretty straightforward exercise using the dot product.

Thank you all,
 

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