Classical Mechanics: Lagrangian for pendulum with oscillating support

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The discussion focuses on finding the Lagrangian for a simple pendulum with a horizontally oscillating support. The user derives the Lagrangian as L = (1/2) ml² φ̇² - m l a γ sin(γt) cos(φ) + mg l cos(φ), but notes it differs from the book's answer. The correct Lagrangian provided in the book is L = (1/2) ml² φ̇² + m l a γ² cos(γt) sin(φ) + mg l cos(φ). The user seeks clarification on the discrepancy and hints at a total derivative connection. The discussion also emphasizes the importance of proper notation in mathematical expressions.
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Homework Statement



Greetings! This is an example problem at the end of Chapter 1 in Mechanics (Landau):
A simple pendulum of mass m whose point of support oscillates horizontally in the plane of motion of the pendulum according to the law x=acos(\gamma t).
Find the Lagrangian.


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The Attempt at a Solution


x = a cos(\gamma t) + l sin(\phi) ; y = l cos(\phi)

Where, \phi is the angle the pendulum makes with the vertical. Then:


<br /> \dot{x}= -a\gamma sin(\gamma t)+l cos(\phi) \dot{\phi} ; \dot{y} = -l sin(\phi) \dot{\phi}

<br /> L = T - U = \frac{1}{2} m ( \dot{x}^2 + \dot{y}^2) - U<br />

Which gives (ignoring full time derivative terms):
<br /> L = \frac{1}{2} ml^2 \dot{\phi}^2 - m l a \gamma sin (\gamma t) cos(\phi)\dot{\phi} + m g l cos(\phi)<br />

Answer given in the book:
<br /> L = \frac{1}{2} ml^2 \dot{\phi}^2 + m l a \gamma^2 cos (\gamma t) sin(\phi) + m g l cos(\phi)<br />


My solution is different from the one given in the book. Could someone please tell me where I'm going wrong?
 
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for sure, there is a total derivated connecting both.
 
Funny, the internet pdf (2nd edition) has a problem 2 and a problem 3 that show similarities. If I look at problem 2 (and remove m1) that's just what you find:
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in your case x(t) is given, and ##(-a\gamma \sin\gamma t)^2 ## isn't interesting (can you tell why not?), so that leaves your expression !

Note that ##a sin\gamma t## is not as clear as ##a\sin\gamma t## ( a \sin \gamma t ) because some folks might interpret the ##asin## as ##\arcsin## ( \arcsin ).
In addition, TeX recognizes the \sin as a function and takes care of proper spacing !

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