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The discussion revolves around the intersection of climate science and technology, particularly focusing on the potential for scientific advancements versus technological applications in addressing climate change. Participants explore the effectiveness of weather and climate models, the role of economic viability in technology development, and the broader implications of climate-related research.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to understand the balance between scientific research and technological solutions for climate issues, suggesting that technology like energy and carbon capture may be more prudent at this time.
  • Another participant questions the prudence of focusing on technology over science, highlighting the limitations of current weather and climate predictions and the economic viability of new technologies as potential bottlenecks.
  • A participant shares a moral perspective, arguing that reducing atmospheric CO2 may be more effective in addressing climate change than improving model accuracy, although they acknowledge uncertainty in this view.
  • One participant mentions their colleague's work in cloud physics and multiscale modeling, indicating a specific area of scientific inquiry relevant to climate systems.
  • A participant references the American Geophysical Union's journals as a resource for understanding the connections between physics and climate science, sharing their diverse experiences within Earth systems science.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether scientific advancements or technological applications are more critical in addressing climate change. Multiple competing views are presented, reflecting differing priorities and perspectives on the issue.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the effectiveness and feasibility of various approaches, including the economic implications of technology development and the accuracy of climate models. The discussion highlights the complexity of addressing climate change through both scientific and technological lenses.

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I just started studying physics in undergrad and am considering working on Earth systems/climate. How much more do you think we can do in terms of science? Surely a lot, but maybe technology (energy, carbon capture) is more prudent right now. Thanks.
 
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We can't predict the weather tomorrow with total accuracy. Let alone the climate. But weather and climate models have been improving. By how much? I don't know.
Technology is more prudent? For what?

Often, applications that are economically viable are the bottleneck of new technologies.
 
Asteropaeus said:
We can't predict the weather tomorrow with total accuracy. Let alone the climate. But weather and climate models have been improving. By how much? I don't know.
Technology is more prudent? For what?

Often, applications that are economically viable are the bottleneck of new technologies.
More prudent to addressing the problems than science. I have moral assumptions about the suffering linked to climate change. For example, reducing atmospheric CO2 and therefore the overall effects of global warming would seem more prudent than getting more accuracy/precision in weather/climate models. It would sort of "chop closer to the roots." Whether that's true or not, I don't know. Perhaps better models is more feasible. I'm such a newbie that I haven't even considered economics.

In any case, thanks for replying.
 
node02 said:
I just started studying physics in undergrad and am considering working on Earth systems/climate. How much more do you think we can do in terms of science? Surely a lot, but maybe technology (energy, carbon capture) is more prudent right now. Thanks.

One of my colleagues does 'cloud physics'- the dynamics of cumulus cloud fields. It's a lot of multiscale modeling, he's an expert in Large Eddy Simulations (LES).

https://www.tropos.de/en/research/a...luence-on-cloud-processes/les-cloud-modeling/
 
http://sites.agu.org/ The journals of the American Geophysical Union can give you a good idea of the linkage of physics to climate and Earth systems. I've been all over the place within the scope of Earth systems science, including geoneutrinos and cosmic rays, the magnetosphere, and some other areas. All this while being a member of the Global Environmental Change Focus Group. The group started out as "Global Warming" then changed its name to "Climate Change" and is now "Global Environmental Change" That last name reflects the understanding that things are happening that aren't directly measurable within the context of climate change. Things such as the movement of carbon in the mantle, the nature of that carbon, and ultimately touches on what some of us call "quantum geophysics".
 

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