How Does Inserting Different Dielectric Materials Affect Capacitor Performance?

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The discussion centers on the impact of inserting different dielectric materials between the plates of a parallel plate capacitor on its performance. The participants confirm that the capacitors formed by the dielectrics with constants k1 and k2 are in series, leading to the equivalent capacitance formula Cnet = C1C2/(C1+C2). The total thickness of the dielectrics must equal the distance between the plates, d, and the arrangement of the dielectrics can affect the overall capacitance. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the configuration of dielectrics in capacitor design.

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Homework Statement


Between the plates of parallel plate condenser having charge Q,a plate of thickness t1 and dielectric constant k1 is placed.In the rest of the space,there is another plate of thickness t2 and dielectric constant K2.The potential difference across the condenser will be.

Homework Equations


C=kAe0/(d-t+t/k)
k----->dielectric constant
A--->Area of the plates
e0---->permittivity
d---->distance between the plates
t------>thickness of the plate

V=Qnet/C

The Attempt at a Solution



Combination of capacitors with materials of dielectric constant K1 and K2 is obtained.i am not sure if this parallel or series connection.

My logic says they are in series.

So Cnet=C1C2/C1+C2

But i am not arriving at a final answer

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Your logic is correct, they are in series. Also your formula for the equivalent capacitance is correct. So now what are C1 and C2?
 
kuruman said:
Your logic is correct, they are in series. Also your formula for the equivalent capacitance is correct. So now what are C1 and C2?

Yeah but isn't the distance between the plates of C1 d/2 ?
 
Yeah but isn't the distance between the plates of C1 d/2 ?
Not on my reading of the Q.
Abhimessi10 said:
... ,a plate of thickness t1 and dielectric constant k1 is placed. In the rest of the space,there is another plate of thickness t2 and ...
d---->distance between the plates
t------>thickness of the plate
the dielectric plates are thickness t1 and t2 and they filled the gap d between the plates, so that t1 + t2 = d
It is not stated that t1 = t2
 
IMHO, the question is both incomplete and ambiguous but, given the information provided, can only be solved as 'C in Series'.
 
Nik_2213 said:
IMHO, the question is both incomplete and ambiguous but, given the information provided, can only be solved as 'C in Series'.

Is there any combination in which the area of both plates become A/2(not related to this question)
 
You can have the gap in the bottom half of the capacitor be completely filled with one kind of dielectric and the top half filled with a different kind. Is that what you mean? (Not the case here).
 
kuruman said:
You can have the gap in the bottom half of the capacitor be completely filled with one kind of dielectric and the top half filled with a different kind. Is that what you mean? (Not the case here).
I thought that's exactly what we have here? EDIT: Except that it's not halves
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Merlin3189 said:
I thought that's exactly what we have here? EDIT: Except that it's not halves
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That's exactly my interpretation.
 
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Abhimessi10 said:
Is there any combination in which the area of both plates become A/2(not related to this question)
Only if the dielectric slabs are arranged side by side and so divide the plate area between them. The width of the dielectrics would have to be identical in order to divide the area of the plates equally.

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In this case you could consider the resulting device to be two capacitors with the same plate area (A/2) but different dielectrics and connected in parallel.
 

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