Combination Question: 8 Things Divided in Groups of 5 & 3

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The problem involves determining the number of ways to divide 8 different items into two groups, one containing 5 items and the other containing 3 items.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of combinations, specifically considering expressions like 8C5 and 8C3. There is also a suggestion that selecting one group automatically determines the other group.

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Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, with participants offering different approaches to the counting method. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between the groups.

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Participants are questioning the assumptions behind the counting methods and whether different approaches yield the same result.

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Homework Statement




In how many ways can 8 different things be divided into groups of 5 and 3.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I thought it be just be 8C5 X 8C3

but also might it be 8C5 x 3C3 since if you take 5 you only have 3 left to select from?
 
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lionely said:

Homework Statement




In how many ways can 8 different things be divided into groups of 5 and 3.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I thought it be just be 8C5 X 8C3

but also might it be 8C5 x 3C3 since if you take 5 you only have 3 left to select from?

If you pick the three for one group you automatically leave 5 for the other group.
 
Another way to look at this is to arrange the 8 items in a row, then label those to go into the first group "0" and those to go into the second group "1". How many different way are there to order 5 "0"s and 3 "1"s?
 
Thank you
 

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