Combinatorics: Find the Coefficient of x^36 in this Generatin Function

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The problem involves finding the coefficient of x^36 in the generating function (x^2 + x^3 + x^4 + x^5 + x^6 + x^7 + x^8)^6, which falls under the subject area of combinatorics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss factoring the generating function and transforming the problem into finding the coefficient of x^34 in a different polynomial. There is exploration of how to count combinations that sum to a specific value.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, suggesting different approaches and questioning the complexity of counting combinations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of series expansions and transformations, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive method.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the correct transformations and the implications of factoring out terms, which may affect the counting of combinations. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and methods without resolving the problem.

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Homework Statement



Find the coefficient of x^36 in (x^2 + x^3 + x^4 + x^5 + x^6 + x^7 + x^8)^6

Homework Equations



1/(1-x) = 1 + x + x^2 +... (where +... indicates an infinite series).

(1 - x^(m+1)/(1-x)) = 1+x+x^2+...+x^m (I'll call this identity 'TWEAK')

The Attempt at a Solution



To get my equation to look like something in the 'relevant equations' I factor an x^2 out of (x^2 + x^3 + x^4 + x^5 + x^6 + x^7 + x^8)^6 to get [x^12(1 + x + x^2 + x^3 + x^4 + x^5 + x^6)^6]. So now I can substitute TWEAK for my polynomial such that [x^12(1 + x + x^2 + x^3 + x^4 + x^5 + x^6)^6] = x^12(1 - x^7)/(1-x).

From here though, I just can't figure out from my book how to proceed.
 
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so it becomes find coeffiecient of x^34 in
(1 + x + x^2 + x^3 + x^4 + x^5 + x^6)^6

so i think you have to pick 6 numbers from 6 numbers with replacement (0,1,2,3,4,5,6), such that they add up to 34
 
lanedance said:
so it becomes find coeffiecient of x^34 in
(1 + x + x^2 + x^3 + x^4 + x^5 + x^6)^6

so i think you have to pick 6 numbers from 6 numbers with replacement (0,1,2,3,4,5,6), such that they add up to 34

Actually it's x^24 if you factor out the (x^2)^6 like that lanedance. :)
 
good point, unfortunately that makes it a little harder as there are more combination that add up to 24
666600
666510
666420
666411
666330
666321
666222
...
 
and so on, not sure if there is a smart way to count those, or an equivalent maybe a generalisation of the binomial theorem
 
Your original method will work, though you seem to have some misplaced parentheses.

Start with 1+x+...+x^6 = (1-x^7)/(1-x). Then use

(1-x^7)^6 = 1 - 6x^7 + ...

(1-x)^(-6) = 1 + 6x + ...

Compute each of these series out to x^24. There are only a few terms in the first one, and there is a simple formula for the coefficients of the second one.

Then, take their product, and figure out which terms contribute to the coefficient of x^24.
 

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