Combinatorics - Mathematical Induction?

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The discussion revolves around a combinatorial problem involving the proof of a mathematical identity related to summations. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the relationship between the summation of cubes and the square of the summation of integers, specifically the identity \(\sum^{n}_{i=1} i^3 = \frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4}\) and its connection to \((\sum^{n}_{i=1} i)^2\).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to prove two separate summation identities and the steps involved in mathematical induction. There is mention of breaking down the problem into manageable parts, and some participants question the original poster's understanding of the relationships between the summations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the necessary steps to approach the proof. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's progress in understanding the problem, though no consensus has been reached on the final approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is from a textbook and that the original poster has not encountered similar problems in their previous studies. There is also a distinction made between two separate summation problems that the original poster is attempting to address.

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Hello, I am having trouble solving this problem. Maybe I'm just overreacting to it. In my two semesters in discrete math/combinatorics, I've never seen a problem like this (with two summations) and been asked to prove it. Can some one help?

[itex]\sum^{n}_{i=1} i^3 = \frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4} = (\sum^{n}_{i=1} i)^2[/itex]

I mean, I know the whole S(n), S(1), S(k), S(k+1) steps, but I'm just unsure of how to write it. The solutions manual for the book skip that problem.

Book: Discrete And Combinatorial Mathematics: An Applied Introduction by Ralph P. Grimaldi, 5th Edition.
 
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First of all, this is a textbook problem, so it belongs in the homework forums. I moved it for you :smile:

Second, you actually need to show two things:

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^n i^3=\frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4}[/tex]

and

[tex]\sum_{i=1}^n i = \frac{n(n+1)}{2}[/tex]

(and square both sides)

Can you do that?
 
Thank you very much! That helped a lot, I just finished my proof. :D That makes sense why you'd have to break it up. I didn't put the relationship between [itex]\sum^{n}_{i=1}i = \frac{n(n+1)}{2}[/itex] and [itex](\sum^{n}_{i=1}i)^2 = \frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4}[/itex] together. lol
 
nintendo424 said:
Hello, I am having trouble solving this problem. Maybe I'm just overreacting to it. In my two semesters in discrete math/combinatorics, I've never seen a problem like this (with two summations) and been asked to prove it. Can some one help?

[itex]\sum^{n}_{i=1} i^3 = \frac{n^2(n+1)^2}{4} = (\sum^{n}_{i=1} i)^2[/itex]

I mean, I know the whole S(n), S(1), S(k), S(k+1) steps, but I'm just unsure of how to write it. The solutions manual for the book skip that problem.

Book: Discrete And Combinatorial Mathematics: An Applied Introduction by Ralph P. Grimaldi, 5th Edition.


These are two separate problems. ∑i³ is one and ∑i is the other. Have you tried either?

The question belongs in mathematics, not computer science.
 
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