Comments - Publishing in a Physics Journal (Addendum)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the publication process in physics journals, particularly focusing on the history and policies related to embargoes, as exemplified by the Higgs boson discovery papers. The scope includes historical context and implications for researchers presenting findings at conferences.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention the interesting history of embargo policies related to the Higgs boson discovery papers, noting that both papers were published in PRL B while also attracting interest from Nature and Science.
  • Others point out that the ATLAS and CMS Higgs results were published back-to-back in PLB, with additional papers in Science aimed at a broader scientific audience, which were written at the request of Science.
  • It is noted that the experiments felt that PLB was appropriate for publishing "dull but important" papers, which led to some tension with Nature.
  • One participant expresses surprise at the potential violation of embargoes if press coverage occurs during conference presentations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to share an interest in the historical context of publication practices, but there are differing views on the implications of embargo policies and the reactions of various journals.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of detailed information on the specific embargo policies and their enforcement, as well as the varying perspectives on the appropriateness of different publication venues for significant findings.

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The Higgs boson discovery papers had some interesting history concerning the embargo policies as far as I heard, but I don't know details. Both papers appeared in PRL B, while Nature and Science were certainly interested in those extremely influential papers. Reporting it at a conference without getting media attention was impossible, of course.
 
The ATLAS and CMS Higgs results were published back-to-back in PLB. There was also a set of three papers (An overview, and a summary of the ATLAS and CMS results) in Science, which were written at a different level: intended for scientists who are not physicists. These were written at Science's request,

Nature was somewhat annoyed, bur the position of the experiments was that PLB was there for us when we were publishing papers that were "dull but important".
 
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Very useful information - I had not realized that one would be accidentally violating the embargo if the press reported on a conference presentation!
 

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