Compact support of matter fields

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the relationship between asymptotic boundary conditions of matter fields and the concept of compact support, particularly in relation to the Riemann tensor in the context of spacetime. It explores theoretical implications and definitions within the framework of general relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the precise relationship between matter fields going to zero at spatial infinity and having compact support.
  • One participant suggests that the term "compact support" is often misused when referring to asymptotic behavior of fields.
  • Another participant clarifies that compact support means matter fields vanish outside a finite spatial region, while falling off at infinity is a weaker condition.
  • It is noted that Einstein's equation implies the Ricci tensor has compact support if the matter fields do, but this does not hold for the Riemann tensor, which typically falls off but does not necessarily vanish beyond a certain radius.
  • A later reply asserts that in three dimensions, compactly supported matter fields do imply that the Riemann tensor has compact support.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of compact support for the Riemann tensor, with some agreeing that in three dimensions it leads to compact support, while others highlight the general case where this does not hold. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of compact support in higher dimensions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential ambiguities in the definitions of compact support and asymptotic behavior, as well as the dependence of the Riemann tensor's properties on the dimensionality of the spacetime considered.

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This discussion may be of interest to researchers and students in theoretical physics, particularly those focused on general relativity and the mathematical properties of spacetime and fields.

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Hi,

I have a question concerning the asymptotic boundary conditions on matter fields and the Riemann tensor. What is the precise relation between saying that "the matter fields go to zero at spatial infinity" and "the matter fields have compact support"? And how natural is it to state that the Riemann tensor has "compact support" on a certain spacetime? I would say that if the matter fields have compact support, the Riemann tensor also has, right?

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It seems to me that people often abuse the concept of "having compact support" whenever they actually mean a certain asymptotic behaviour. Can anyone comment on this?
 
To say that the matter fields have compact support means that their intersection with a Cauchy surface has compact support in the mathematical sense. This is usually used loosely to mean that all matter fields (exactly) vanish outside of some finite spatial region. Saying that the matter fields fall off at some rate near infinity is therefore a weaker condition.

Einstein's equation implies that the Ricci tensor will have compact support if the matter fields do. The same is not true of the Riemann tensor. It will usually fall off at some rate as one moves away from the matter, but there is no radius beyond which it will vanish.
 
Ok, thanks! But in three dimensions compactly supported matter fields then do imply that the Riemann tensor has compact support, right?
 
Yes, that's right.
 

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